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Crow has proven he is more of a liability than benefit to whats left of the Vangard. After this one blunder, I would have shot him on the spot, have Glint rezz him and shoot him again. Crow was shaping up to be somewhat promising, what with 'saving' Zavala, and putting actual work with his recon, but now... I want him dead.
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  • Fanboi much

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  • Why? Because you think an entity that has ulterior motives is a better sacrifice? 🤔 Also, it makes complete sense why he did what he did, he was ignored. Multiple times over. Why the freak would he explain or ask for help when he has tried already and was IGNORED. Plus he was willing to deal with the consequences, that I respect. Most people always want the “benefits” (consequences) of good choices but always run or find excuses to blame others when it’s a negative consequence. Still find it incredibly stupid that we couldn’t ask Caitai “Um hey, that you on Mars? Or one of those rouge factions you denounced in season of the Chosen that gives us full clear to shoot?” So anyone that says what Crow did was “stupid”, we ALL did the same thing in the opening mission. (Because of the writers PUTTING us in that position to make this storyline happen (and NOT letting us choose or giving contact or asking a question.) because she gave us one chance after that.)

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  • Bearbeitet von crcookie05: 3/31/2022 2:49:40 AM
    Yeah literally I went into that mission I was so pissed the whole time I was like UMMM SCUSE ME ARENT WE FRIENDS WITH THE CABAL NOW like why are they in my way why am I not asking them politely to use their cannon I was not happy And can I just remind everyone that da boi wasn't trying to kill anyone, he was trying to stop him doing stuff to the Hive, and probably thought they could talk it out. He's essentially a 1-year-old, he's still learning, and he's been through a lot. Threatening violence against this poor abused man isn't going to help him get any better. Although he should definitely still have consequences. I think guilt is a very natural consequence in this situation.

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  • I actually just walked up to them and they shot me first on my first run, I did nothing wrong.

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  • Gameplay design because of poor writing

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  • Because you think an entity that has ulterior motives is a better sacrifice? Yes. Because its a more stable one. As for him being ignored, hardly. Saladman and Zavala were there, Crow just didnt like what they had to say, warping their words into making him feel his were being ignored. They were not. They were put down with reason and thought to the bigger picture, not the percieved suffering of a race of creatures that would sooner have his entrails decorating their bodies like party streamers. Crow willing to accept the consequenses is the best thing he did there, as he damn well should. Agreed, I found it odd that we didnt at least TRY to patch in to Cital and ask what was going on Mars, so not even going to try and defend that one. Crow knew the stakes and what the Psion was doing multipule times over, and yet did it anyway, almost causing the treaty to be broken with the potential death of the Cabal Empress. Saladman wanted far worse for the Hive, and yet what the Cabal did was rather tame. It was contained. The thought; 'dont touch what you dont understand' springs to mind here...

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  • How is finding out how the hive got the light so the cabal can without redoing Ghauls mistake a better and more stable motive? Also, what is the reasoning and justification for what was being done? “To gain Intel of their plans?” The moon is the first guess. It’s the only hive stronghold in the system (barring the ship near Saturn) and the Scarlet Keep was manipulated by Savvy herself. And for people that wouldn’t or didn’t guess that….why not? They hav been trying to turn it into a warmoon for years. And has been the site of many guardian losses. Of COURSE manipulated hive lightbarers would shoot for that target, no need to compromise ideals. Plus…..who’s idea was it again to do the psychic stuff? OH that’s right, Ciatals. Not Saladin, not Zhava. Ciatals. Again…..what’s the angle she has? (Plus Zavala was semi distracted with TWQ campaign too, so his head is a bit heavy.) Does that justify Crow’s actions to not deal with the consequences? Nope. Just like Saladin said “Learn this lesson. Just because your right morally, doesn’t absolve you from dealing/paying for the consequences of the actions. Someone ALWAYS has to pay.” That goes both ways, once we start perverting the ideals, who pays? IMO, Crow still has to pay for his choice. In hard work in learning that lesson. The idiot crowd of “kill him, yet him off.” are completely foolish and ignorant. (Actually might just be so emotionally lead they have completely disconnected their logical thinking aspects of their brain.) And I can guarantee would want a chance after they freaked up. Most everyone changes their tune, once they are on the short end of the stick of suffering and at the mercy of someone else. Now we shall see how the Bungie writers either do the characters justification or freak it up themselves rofl 🤣

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  • Ah, I see. I thought you meant by the Vangard being the better choice, not the Cabal. Right. And second, I think I owe an apology. Despite my initial stance, I fell to jumping onto the 'emo Crow' bandwagon, hence my verbal blahze. So allow me to bring this car back around. I still think Crow needs to be punished (and harsly) for such poorly thought-out actions. He may in his head have a clear path in terms of morality, but what it will, and has cost, is unnacceptble. I am still of the mind that the Scarlet Keep should have been razed to the ground and purged the entire moon of hive once we killed Ominghaul, instead of doing the normal Vangard thing and letting it sit there to find a new owner. Its almost like Humanity doesnt really care about real survival... Whoever gave the idea of using the Mindscape matters not, just that it works with little to no suffering on either side, as it did so. (I would have been fine with proper torture as did Saladman) Crow wanting (rather desperately) to seperate himself from Uldren, made a choice that did not need to be made. Thats the part I have a problem with. Crow has on multiple occasions when gathering his own info, has been pinned down against Lucent Hive, tortured to the brink of death against them, and still somehow thinks they deserve a quiet/ 'good' death. I simply do not understand how you could care about something so evil to such an extent. Perhaps that is more my failing than his, but I cannot sympathise with him on this count. When the time finally comes when one wants my head, and has the power to do it, I do not expect to be given mercy, and would rather they didnt.

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  • Why wouldn't he be ignored? Seriously? Who the F is he? Some dimwit without memories. He has no business giving his opinion on anything. He is a mindless moron and he should be chucked off the tower.

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  • Not a mindless moron. I take it you didn’t play through the season of the lost? Or forgot what happened? 🤔 Also, not listen to what Saladin and Zhvala talked about in this season? Now who is the forgetful one? Crow who has “forgotten” or the player who has forgotten? 🤔

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  • Bearbeitet von Sohsuh: 3/17/2022 7:50:23 PM
    Everything he has said and done, including what he just did this season, connects to him being a mindless moron. Crow is the worst character in the entire game. An annoying, sensitive, crybaby that is an extreme liability and should be chucked off the tower without hesitation. He literally serves no purpose. He is useless to us.

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  • I see you can’t look into a mirror. *sigh* I do feel sorry for the limitations you have put on your own mindscape to see the fractals. I hope your journey through life enlightens you. Stay safe fellow guardian.

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  • And I hope your weak minded, sensitive thinking doesn't lead to our annihilation. I hope we throw every soft thinking guardian off the tower before it's too late.

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  • I find it hilarious. My brother says the EXACT same thing, yet I’m willing to have a 18+ hour long conversation to find out the truth, he isn’t. Very interesting indeed. 🤔 Now who is weak minded? Lol 😂 (more directed at my brother. It takes an immense amount of strength to look inwards and go to the depths of fractals and deal with the ramifications of the information and truth that is found there, especially when it comes against the biases that have been hammered into our heads by those raising us, society and narcissists manipulating, propagandizing and conditioning to be a specific way.) Just because someone knows the truth other then you and points it out and doesn’t attack everything that comes against them instantly, doesn’t mean they are weak minded or over sensitive. Plus……isn’t a extremely sensitive sensor how we know of a imminent earthquake? Radio signals from another galaxy? The existence of neutrinos? I find it very fascinating that “sensitive” is used as a put down insult to attack and subdue people into submission. Almost like it’s been programmed by a narcissist who doesn’t want the truth to come out, so they infect those around them as flying monkeys to be used as pawns to shut people up so the truth isn’t discovered. 🤔 Using others to do their dirty work is what manipulative people do sadly. Still very fascinating. Also, arnt most annihilations caused by evil people trying to exert their will over others and can’t stand that there is even the existence of another entity that thinks differently from them? 🤔 Now a downward decline due to pathetic people -blam!- to stand up for what’s right and seek out the truth? Maybe that’s what you were going for? But that’s because of selfishness and lack of care, not because of someone being sensitive. (In fact having a sensitivity can actually help to NOT be selfish.) Selfish people can be strong too. In fact, looping back around. Selfish strong people start conflicts to take more because they arnt satisfied and “need” more to feed their selfishness. In your seeking goal is/was to cause emotional distress, I do hope you see the harm it can have and decreased the usage of it and listen and seek the truth more. Goes around, comes around. And I don’t wish ill will on you.

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  • Bearbeitet von Sohsuh: 3/17/2022 9:10:11 PM
    No need to write that long winded nonsense that is completely irrelevant to the actual story in this video game. I imagine you wrote that with your nose tilted up in the air. Crow is a liability, and no matter how you try to spin it that is a fact. He caused way more harm than good, and he should be eliminated immediately that way he can't cause any more harm. This time we had Saladin save our -blam!-, but next time? Sparta kick that little wimp off the tower. We don't need people like him. You're the type of person to run into a lion cage to unchain the animal, while screaming nonsensical gibberish that you read on the internet, trying to sound smart, and immediately being mauled to death.

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  • Bearbeitet von cedar: 3/18/2022 12:21:41 AM
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    deep sea pearl diving... - alt

    im sorry i couldn't resist chiming in on heated *debeat but you are giving me anxiety and sometimes when i get nervous i put my fingers in my armpits and smell them... i just did it again 😵‍💫 btw are you the same [insert gamer tag here] that was actively posting on ea nhl forums in like 2010-2013'ish? if so, i remember you! man you were legendary back then! so what happened? * debate

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  • ;)

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    awesome 🤩 those were some good times! i remember that poster who always made a Chara build who would get so salty every odd year when hitting was toned down. i forgot the gt. or that one guy/girl who went by the name of: idrankurbeer, quite an online character eh, super funny. sometimes i play nhl but not ever as seriously as before. miss those days big time. anyway, i don't want to be gas but i do think agreeing to disagree is the play here. let's not get "ea sported" 😉

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  • Bungie should hire Rammer to come fix Destiny.

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  • Bearbeitet von cedar: 3/18/2022 12:55:35 AM
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    yoooo haha i wonder if he's still at ea. im sure you don't remember me but my gt was DoOkLaWz back then. i still remember eashl top clubs like 'legends never die'. i was never very good but i did play on some top 100 clubs i just can't for the life of me remember their names. i mostly played 6's with friends that i played real hockey w/ and we never ranked high, it was fun tho. i used to love making builds, mostly 2-way forwards, sometimes playmaker, and grinder when attribute stacking was a thing. anyway, enough of me blabbering, hope all is well with you irl, peace

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