I main a Titan and hardly ever use a subclass that has the ability because it is not that good to begin with if you play against people who have situational awareness, you’ll trade at best. Its a risky ability and now it will not even have the reward unless you wear an exotic and hit it in the air. Pointless nerf to subclasses that don’t even see that much usage anyway. Meanwhile Warlocks also lose their OHK ability, but Hunters get to keep theirs and get another one with the flux grenade, both of which are low risk and high reward 🤦‍♂️

your titan has nearly double melee kills than your next highest method of killing which is super kills, which is still nearly double your weapon kills with a shotgun. 4 times as many melee kills as weapon kills (shotgun none-the-less) You were clearly abusing shoulder charge.

LoL it’s been azz for a year now. Besides we’re in a Slug/ Fusion Meta. SC hasn’t been an issue since Year 1.

If it wasn't for PvP players spamming what they think is wrong with every single character or weapon in this game, [b](and that includes streamers that have the pull that none of you will ever have.)[/b] Also if Bungie actually played their own game instead of just using what's used the more or complained about the most. A lot of the dumb decisions they make might not happen as often as they actually do. Not all, but the ones that are very vocal about Destiny PvP are the actual problem with this entire game. [b]7 years and you guys still haven't learned to be careful what you asked for especially when it comes to this company that loves to nerf a game to the ground, and constantly changes things to try to cover up their deliberate poor actions.[/b] [spoiler]Then when things do change you have the kids/teens saying things like "Adapt, get gud, well it still works" Thinking they are intelligent acting like a child. I wouldn't doubt it if some of them are actual Bungie's minions pretending to be just another gamer. That's how stupid things are in this game.[/spoiler] Correction, Did you know Destiny PvP was only meant to be a casual game mode, to have fun, not overly competitive? Then the stupid Triles was added, yeah yeah, I don't care about the opinion from trials players because most of them don't even care about the game as a whole, [b](how one mode affects the entire game no matter how little or how small of whatever action has taken place.)[/b] Most of you don't even want to be honest with yourselves and look at the real problem, and that is you complaining to a company that doesn't even know how to balance a scale. The problem with "balancing" is knowing for a fact that this game was never created to be balanced in the first place, and Luke Smith attempting to do has caused permanent issues in this game that will last throughout the game's life span. The #1 worst decision in a game that is supposed to be space magic, to where Guardians don't even feel like Guardians anymore. So go ahead people, keep arguing about what class is better and what needs to be nerfed to the ground because Bungie loves you for it...

I thought titans on these forums kept talking about how they don't ever use shoulder charge?... Why are they all crying now?

Imagine your “fun” in crucible is dictated by wether or not you can crutch on shoulder charge, such sadness for you.

Every titan ever. Litterally no one uses SC because of shotguns. Now all of a sudden they cry about a SC change that no one used..

SC ohk is pretty annoying, low skill and hard to counter unless you had a SG. HHSN nerf, not sure, you could counter this tbh after its previous nerf But the hunter dodge cooldown makes zero sense, I can't see how it was OP before.

Oh don't worry, they increased it's aim-assist and made it so you can now shoulder charge players that are behind you, just follow it up with a quick melee for an easy kill ... you still don't have to use your guns ... in a first-person shooter ... oh, and it'll blind everyone in the lobby now too lol

What if everything you ever wanted... WAS TO KICK -blam!- IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! THEN YOU NEED PEREGRINE GREAVES!!! PUT THESE SWEET--blam!- LEGS ON YOUR TITAN AND YOU WILL -blam!-ING DECIMATE THINGS WITH YOUR POWERFUL KNEES. THEY ARE GEMS. YOU WILL LOOK GLAMOROUS LIKE A STYLISH LADY WHILE YOU KNEE SOMEONE IN THE THROAT SO HARD THEIR TEETH GO FLYING OUT OF THEIR -blam!-! YOUR LEGS ARE BEDAZZLED! BEDAZZLED WITH THESTRENGTH OF 1,000 KODIAK BEARS IF KODIAK BEARS GAVE ZERO -blam!-S ABOUT GRAVITY AND EVOLVED TO DO SWEET JUMPKICKS! YOU WILL SET YOUR CHILD ON YOUR KNEE TO GIVE HIM SOUND FATHERLY ADVICE ANDTHAT CHILD WILL -blam!-ING EXPLODE BECAUSE YOUR KNEES ARE INSTANT DEATH! YOUR SON WILL DIE! YOUR WIFE WILL DIVORCE YOU! YOU WILL DIE ALONE ATOP THE MOUNTAIN OF CORPSES YOU'VE LEFT IN YOUR WAKE AS YOUR LIFE DISSOLVES INTO A NIGHTMARISH HELLSCAPE OF VIOLENCE AND DEPRAVITY! YOU WILL TAKE PEREGRINE GREAVES INTO THE CRUCIBLE AND YOU WILL MASSACRE PEOPLE! YOU WILL -blam!- THEM UP! YOU WILL KNEE BLADEDANCERS! DENIED! GET THAT BUTTERKNIFE THE -blam!- OUT OF HERE! YOU WILL KNEE RADIANT WARLOCKS AND CAUSE THEM TO WEEP RADIANT TEARS! YOU WILL KNEE GOLDEN GUNSLINGERS...CAREFULLY.... YOU WILL KNEE OTHER TITANS IN THEIR BUBBLES, DIVING INTO THEIR NEON DISCO DANCE PARTIES BLIND AS -blam!- AND MURDERING THEM WITH YOUR ENERGY LEGS! IT IS YOUR BUBBLE NOW SO -blam!- THAT GU---wait, -blam!-...THE BUBBLE IS GONE BECAUSE OF YOU GODDAMMIT WHY THE -blam!- DID YOU DO THAT!? YOU WILL RUIN YOUR K/D LIKE I HAVE BECAUSE YOU ARE ADDICTED TO THE SWEET, SWEET SOUND OF INSTANT AIRBORNE DEATH! YOU WILL CATCH SO MANY SHOTGUN BLASTS TO THE FACE AND IT WILL BE WORTH IT WHEN YOU KNOCK A BLADEDANCER THE -blam!- OUT BEFORE HE CAN CHOP UP YOUR TEAM! EVERY PAINFUL DEATH WILL BE VALIDATED AS YOUR LEG COLLIDES WITH A FIERY WARLOCK'S -blam!- GOAT HAT SO HARD THAT HE'S RENDERED BRAIN-DAMAGED AND HIS FAMILY FIGHTS WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO TAKE HIM OFF OF LIFE-SUPPORT! HE WILL LIVE OFF OF TUBES! BECAUSE OF TEXAAAAAAS! PEREGRINE GREEAAAAAAAAAAVES!

I'm just not understanding this nerf. SC and HHSN can no longer OHK yet gave hunters an additional one with the flux grenade. The 2 abilities were already underperforming because of the shotgun meta and now they get objectively worse with this nerf. HHSN I can see working as a boop cannon and cleaning up with an SMG or sidearm but SC still requires you to touch the person which is already dangerously unrewarding as is. The part that is most infuriating is that DMG says "use peregrine greaves". So I have to make a useless build around shoulder charge that's going to get me killed by shotgunners, meanwhile, hunters get the OHK they can perform from a much safer distance with no exotic.