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Why does Bungie deserve more money...

...when so many core elements are broken, abandoned or poorly implemented? Balancing patches take way to damn long. No new maps for Crucible in years. Infact they are just taken away. No to mention awful MMing. No new Gambit maps in years. Once again just taken away. Not to mention jank and overall not fun. Barely any new Strikes. Etc. Etc. Bungie needs to earn the right to monetize their game more. With the snails pace they patch and add things people ask for they are undeserving. Edit: I see some are fine with Bungie being irresponsible and lazy. Asking for faster release of patches isn't asking for a Handout. Why should it take months to change some values on Shatterdive/Glaciernade or Vex Aim Assist(These are just examples, don't get hung up on those in particular). It's not asking for a Handout to ask for better MMing in Crucible. It's asking for the bare minimum of what a PVP shooter should provide. It's not asking for a Handout to add back maps from the "Content Vault". Even if space was the issue they could rotate them in and out. Once again bare minimum expectation. They keep dumping new content on top of a existing busted/broken foundation and walk slowly around putting out fires. It's never ending. We need sweeping decisive change in core parts of the game.
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  • [quote] Edit: I see some are fine with Bungie being irresponsible and lazy. [/quote] Don't take it personally. Many people on here will relentlessly disagree with anything you say, no matter how glaringly obvious it is that your points are fair and accurate. I especially like the ones who disagree and do not even provide counter arguments. It's rare you'll end up having a grown up debate on issues in the game.

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  • [quote]Bungie needs to earn the right to monetize their game more. [/quote] Well, with how many players have been conditioned to throw money at the screen no matter how bad things are? Bungie doesn't need to earn anything because of them. The paywalls have gotten worse Since Activision left that now Dungeons are going to be sold separately, and paywalls yet to come. Eververse has gotten worse since Activision left and will continue to get worse. The content has gotten worse except for the expansions that are a slight improvement from the copy and paste work since Activision left. The list of issues in this game are piling up and I didn't even scratch the surface, and all these player that support the things I mentioned are the actual problem with gaming companies today. No people, Bungie is not special. All companies have their expenses so stop the BS that they "need a lot more money" than what they are producing.

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    • Remember when eververse fueled secret missions like whisper and outbreak? Bunch of lying 🤡 from the start

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      • To go on one of your points....Destiny 2 used to have SBMM - primarily having to do with one's ELO. People complained, people whines, people cried...so, Bungie got rid of it, and the masses celebrated. Sure, we can load into a match at lightning speed compared to the 30-40 minute wait times in Comp that some of you may remember, and now people are wanting it back...so to what end?

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        Where D2 FOR SWITCH 2 BUNGO!? - alt

        [quote]...when so many core elements are broken, abandoned or poorly implemented? Balancing patches take way to damn long. No new maps for Crucible in years. Infact they are just taken away. No to mention awful MMing. No new Gambit maps in years. Once again just taken away. Not to mention jank and overall not fun. Barely any new Strikes. Etc. Etc. Bungie needs to earn the right to monetize their game more. With the snails pace they patch and add things people ask for they are undeserving. Edit: I see some are fine with Bungie being irresponsible and lazy. Asking for faster release of patches isn't asking for a Handout. Why should it take months to change some values on Shatterdive/Glaciernade or Vex Aim Assist(These are just examples, don't get hung up on those in particular). It's not asking for a Handout to ask for better MMing in Crucible. It's asking for the bare minimum of what a PVP shooter should provide. It's not asking for a Handout to add back maps from the "Content Vault". Even if space was the issue they could rotate them in and out. Once again bare minimum expectation. They keep dumping new content on top of a existing busted/broken foundation and walk slowly around putting out fires. It's never ending. We need sweeping decisive change in core parts of the game.[/quote] #BOYCOTTDESTINY

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      • Remember when Bungie split from Activision and people swore that the game would get so much better? Remember when people said Activision was holding Bungie back from making the game they wanted to make? I was laughing then and I'm laughing now. Stupid is as stupid does.

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        • They arnt really asking for more money it us just asking for money up front, the problem comes with the players that don't even know if they will be playing at that time so they don't want to pay up front for content they don't even know if they will play. I don't support this change but for the player that would play this content normally they are paying the same amount

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        • 1. If you're a PVP player? They don't. a. They've neglected PVP for the past 2 years. b. Their efforts to breathe new life into Trials of Osiris have been really poor, and consumed a TON of resources that could have been better used to improve the overall PVP experience. c. The kind of PvP most of you want is not compatible with where the game is headed in PVE. 2. If you're a PVE player? Absolutely they do. The game has never been better on the PVE side. If youre the kind of gamer who this game is being designed for----the player who sees the game as a looter-shooter/MMO hybrid----Bungie has been knocking it out of the park for the last two years. Which is why PVE player numbers are ROCK solid....and slowly growing. While PVP is all over the map. I saw this coming two years ago with Unification of Vision....and I said that there was a reckoning coming with PVP. Because they cleaned house of all the creative talent behidn PVP because most of them wanted Destiny to be a successor to Halo and a PVP focused game.....and "competitive" PvP was never going to be compatible with how the game would need to change to realize their vision for PVE. The game can't serve two masters.....no matter how Bungie keeps trying to pound a square peg into a round hole.

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            Why are you wasting everyone’s time with this stupid -blam!- post?

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            • It's a matter of opinion I don't feel they are lazy. I enjoy their content specifically the end game portion with raids & gm nf. I enjoy the game & would like to continue to see it prosper so I will spend the money. If you feel this negatively about the game why do you still play it? Why do you post in the forums? If you no longer enjoy the game & feel they don't deserve the money why don't you just delete all your characters & uninstall the game?

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            • Most video games that are not multi-player are single play only. You'll drop $60 for 25-30 hours of gameplay. But will complain about a game you've spent hundreds and or thousands of hours playing. This a for profit company. If you don't want to play the game anymore don't but it, it's a pretty simple concept

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              • I'll give you the simple answer for myself. I'm not here to condemn anyone for their decisions on the game, whether they want to support it or not, or continue playing or not. Speaking soley for myself, destiny is still the only game that keeps me consistently coming back and I still have a good time with. It has had my attention since the d1 beta and still has it more than any other game. I know that the content they are providing for the next year is going to keep me around like it always has. And thus, since I still have fun with the game and want to play it, I will support it. That being said, destiny is not the only game. As a message to everyone, it is ok play more than one game. You can play destiny and play other games along side it. I can tell you right now, I'm about to be all over halo infinite and eldin ring when they come out, but im still going to keep destiny around.

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              • Personally I don’t mind paying for Destiny every yr because it actually saves me money. I get bored very quick, once I’m done a games story I’m done, I don’t care about trophies at all so I’d spend a fortune buying game after game. Destiny keeps me busy enough I don’t feel the need to buy every game when it comes out, now I wait until destiny is slow and pick up other games on sale.

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              • [quote]...when so many core elements are broken, abandoned or poorly implemented? Balancing patches take way to damn long. No new maps for Crucible in years. Infact they are just taken away. No to mention awful MMing. No new Gambit maps in years. Once again just taken away. Not to mention jank and overall not fun. Barely any new Strikes. Etc. Etc. Bungie needs to earn the right to monetize their game more. With the snails pace they patch and add things people ask for they are undeserving. Edit: I see some are fine with Bungie being irresponsible and lazy. Asking for faster release of patches isn't asking for a Handout. Why should it take months to change some values on Shatterdive/Glaciernade or Vex Aim Assist(These are just examples, don't get hung up on those in particular). It's not asking for a Handout to ask for better MMing in Crucible. It's asking for the bare minimum of what a PVP shooter should provide. It's not asking for a Handout to add back maps from the "Content Vault". Even if space was the issue they could rotate them in and out. Once again bare minimum expectation. They keep dumping new content on top of a existing busted/broken foundation and walk slowly around putting out fires. It's never ending. We need sweeping decisive change in core parts of the game.[/quote] Totally agree

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              • I swear this happens every off season when people have to pay for a new DLC 🤣 1,000,000 posts complaining about bungo and their greed. Is $40-100 for a year of content really a lot of money to you guys? If it is maybe you should find a cheaper hobby like reading books from the library or going on walks 🤡

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                • They deserve more money so they can bring glowhoo back for -blam!- sake we need better shaders glowimg shaders

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                • I don't like the direction D2 has been taken and my opinion is that Bungie don't deserve any more of my money. So I won't be giving it to them. If you're not happy then the best way to show this is to stop playing D2 and not to buy Witch Queen, any upcoming seasons, the anniversary pack or in game silver. Buying these things and playing the game gives them confirmation that you support what they're doing.

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                  • While I'd love to be upset. I don't enjoy pvp I don't enjoy gambit. So their pve and story focus, has been pretty great.

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                  • "It's not asking for a Handout to add back maps from the "Content Vault". Even if space was the issue they could rotate them in and out. Once again bare minimum expectation." I very much agree with this, especially with our current season this long. I would like to see a a small rotation 3x during a season of this duration or even just once but slightly bigger. I know nobody likes updates, but if they keep the update around 20gbs I'm sure the community will be understanding. I am not even a 8 hour a day grinder or even close to that, but with about 3 hours 4 days a week of play, i very much run out of things to do that feel refreshing.

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                  • Supporting them by buying didn't help the game get better in the past. Nothing has improved in a couple of years. Now this? It will not get better. It's gotten worse. It's like the next step to pay-to-win. What's next, OP loot only accessible via extra paid content? I won't be surprised if they'll do this next to those extra paid content. They are testing the waters if community will bite this. Then they'll probably drop the bomb next. Don't forget stasis, a carrot they dangled on paid content. If supporting them didn't make the game better then, why keep doing it? Maybe leaving will help. It's time to go. Pack up and close up shop. Its time to take our business elsewhere. This is the time to make serious change. It didn't help or change the game before supporting them, it will not change now. Time to go. See you on the other side.

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                  • Bungie needs more money because they are taking chump change from MS for it to be on game pass. From what I read all expansions will be included in gamepass leaving them to only need to buy seasons and dungeons. I say chump change because I really can't see MS giving Bungie anywhere close to what Bungie would get if the same people had to buy the game and expansions like Playstation and steam players have to. what this boils down to is Bungie trying to get player counts up by taking a pay off from MS and those on playstaion get to pay more than they were in the past for maybe the same amount of content. I'm gonna jump on the gamepass for PC bus. I have it for a few other games so why keep spending money on steam the steam version? I've accumulated 4,000 silver from buying certain things on both steam and PlayStation prior to crossplay. Since season are tied to our bungie account and not our platform I'll use that for season purchases and maybe buy the dungeons, but probably not. With Gamepass ultimate being $14.99/month and includes live gold for the consoles a person only needs to play like 3 different games for it to be a smart subscription. Game pass for PC is only $9.99/month with ultimate being $14.99. Someone like me who doesn't have an xbox and isn't remotely interested in cloud gaming it is a no brainer. It sucks for the publisher/developers, but is great for those who can make use of it. So thank those who have been using game pass vs purchasing the game for what is happening with dungeons costing extra. Oh, you can thank me too. I'll be paying 9.99/month for the 10+ games i have installed along with Destiny 2 here soon.

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                    • You're assuming that what you deem problematic is so for everyone which is never the case, essentially.

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                      ok honestly I went here to see if you could give me some reason and sadly you see it similar way as I do. Specialy now when they sell dlc for full price while they are planning to prevent ppl who actualy enjoying that dlc in few months. They give nothing in return for lost content and so on. Servers are as bad as they were when d2 moved to steam with absolutely no efford from bungie to fix it. And so much more! Some people appear offline even when I can see their screen and I see that they are online :D And now this new dungeon and prices... When i talk w ppl about buying something from bungie, like dlc, I usualy tell them to not do it. Just wait until its released since I have strong feeling that there will b some trick hidden. Whenever some company demans payment long time ahead its usualy just scam (anthem???).

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                    • People below 2.0 kd should be barred from making crucible suggestions

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                    • Lol

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                    • One reason some one argued to me they are doing this is so they can make more dungeon/raid content. To which I say, then they need to prove to the community they can make said content good enough to warrent my support and support that content post release. The biggest issues with raids/dungeons previously have been Bungie releases them and then leaves them alone unless they unsunset weapons for the dungeons. Hard mode support just finally got supported again but their implementation on the raid front is beyond unnaceptable in the gaming landscape of hard mode raids of basically just turning up the dials on hp/damage and adding champions to encounters instead of investing the time/money in improving the hard modes in meaningful ways like just basic additional mechanics or even encounters/weapons just exclusive to hard mode. You know... the bare minimum raids outside of Destiny do for their hard modes. Dungeons is the same thing, add hard modes or give dungeons proper updates post launch if you want to start forcing us to purchase them seperately just like other pieces of content we pay for that you 'update' with our cash.

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