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10/12/2021 12:57:47 PM
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Trials matchmaking is completely unbalanced.

So I have been trying to get a flawless trials completion for the past few seasons with no luck. This season, with all the effort Bungie was putting into trials the first few weeks, I had hoped to finally get it. That being said, it seems that the developers have purposely redacted all the positive changes they had made to matchmaking (ie. solo queue separate from fireteams) for no apparent reason. Every match i have had this past weekend has resulted in 1 of 3 ways. 1) I get paired against an obviously hardcore trials player with full adept weapons. 2) I get matched up against 3 stacks, which obviously have an advantage over a team of solo queues for communication purposes alone, let alone coordinated strikes, flanking, etc. 3) I find myself in a match against a 3 stack of flawless titled players and want to blow my brains out, because Bungie refuses to make the matchmaking comprehensive. Bungie, in my opinion, your second week of trials this season had the best matchmaking so far. My suggestion is to roll that back and work from there. One strategy I have heard of flawless completion players using to farm weapons is to hold a flawless ticket and simply not leave for the lighthouse, since when they go to the lighthouse they are supposedly put in another tier of the player base, which I currently find hard to believe due to my matching lately. I suggest that after a player has completed a flawless ticket, immediately after their final match, as opposed to being taken to orbit, they are immediately sent to the lighthouse and, in the case of internet connectivity issues/force closing the game to prevent this from happening, rewards be sent to the post master, and they be entered into the new flawless bracket of competition so that players such as myself who are admittedly not full-time gamers can have a chance at getting the adept weapons. Something has to give Bungie, because the current state is ready to make me leave your game, just because there's no way forward through that aside from paying for a carry which I refuse to do.

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  • Yeh. No -blam!-.

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  • Did anyone who makes these posts read when Bungie explicitly said “going flawless solo will be very difficult to near impossible.” They didn’t let you in solo for easier flawless’, they let solos in to remove the “need for a team” barrier. The fact you can go play Trials without a team is something you couldn’t do before. NOW you can play for the 50 round win pinnacle reward. NOW you can still play and get occasional wins and maybe an engram.

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    • Bearbeitet von Cheebruger: 10/14/2021 2:47:24 AM
      Few things wrong with this post. Adepts are not for everyone. You aren't entitled to getting an adept from a Master Nightfall just because you're unable to complete a Grandmaster, same thing applies for Trials. They have to be earned, and if you're not good enough then I am sorry but you're not entitled to getting them. And you aren't doing everything you can to get flawless. You're complaining about 3 stacks, join one. It's not hard to LFG, and there are some players out there willing/wanting to carry players such as yourself without money needed. Bungie specifically stated that going flawless solo was going to be an extremely difficult task. You're making it more difficult on yourself.

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    • 1st issue... you're expecting to go flawless solo through the use of the matchmaking (not impossible but you have to be a sweat) 2nd issue complaining about teams in a team based pvp mode and finally 3rd issue is you understand that lack of coms is am issue

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    • It is, Crucible is a joke for a looooot of reasons!

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    • [quote]So I have been trying to get a flawless trials completion for the past few seasons with no luck. This season, with all the effort Bungie was putting into trials the first few weeks, I had hoped to finally get it. That being said, it seems that the developers have purposely redacted all the positive changes they had made to matchmaking (ie. solo queue separate from fireteams) for no apparent reason. Every match i have had this past weekend has resulted in 1 of 3 ways. 1) I get paired against an obviously hardcore trials player with full adept weapons. 2) I get matched up against 3 stacks, which obviously have an advantage over a team of solo queues for communication purposes alone, let alone coordinated strikes, flanking, etc. 3) I find myself in a match against a 3 stack of flawless titled players and want to blow my brains out, because Bungie refuses to make the matchmaking comprehensive. Bungie, in my opinion, your second week of trials this season had the best matchmaking so far. My suggestion is to roll that back and work from there. One strategy I have heard of flawless completion players using to farm weapons is to hold a flawless ticket and simply not leave for the lighthouse, since when they go to the lighthouse they are supposedly put in another tier of the player base, which I currently find hard to believe due to my matching lately. I suggest that after a player has completed a flawless ticket, immediately after their final match, as opposed to being taken to orbit, they are immediately sent to the lighthouse and, in the case of internet connectivity issues/force closing the game to prevent this from happening, rewards be sent to the post master, and they be entered into the new flawless bracket of competition so that players such as myself who are admittedly not full-time gamers can have a chance at getting the adept weapons. Something has to give Bungie, because the current state is ready to make me leave your game, just because there's no way forward through that aside from paying for a carry which I refuse to do.[/quote] First, just gonna clear up your misunderstandings about the matchmaking. Bungie never intended solos to be separated from fireteams. They wanted people who don’t have full fireteams to be able to experience the mode and get some loot just by playing, which they have done and well. They also were very upfront with advising that going solo flawless would be not impossible, but would be very difficult for the vast majority of solo players. If you go flawless and retain your passage (with or without visiting the lighthouse) you are supposed to be matched with other players who also have 7 wins on their passage, however the parameters can be expanded if matchmaking is taking too long. Every win after 7 wins on a passage has a chance to drop an adept weapon (as long as your passage remains flawless) After reset on Sundays (most recent MM update) the Flawless pool is enabled and anyone who has been flawless that weekend will now only be matched with other flawless players. This is the best time of the week for casual/less experienced players to make a run at the lighthouse. I think you need to reign in your expectations of being able to make it flawless solo. For someone with your level of experience it will require an immeasurable amount of luck. If you want to get flawless then you’ve got 2 options. 1. Find some Flawless title holder who’s looking to do a free carry to guild their title (you’d be surprised how many there are) 2. Find some people to make a regular team with. Practice in regular Elim and Comp, build your team chemistry and experience. Find a play style and loadouts that work for you. Learn the maps, call outs and strategies. Watch good players play and try adopt some of their tactics. Only about a third of all players each weekend make it to the lighthouse, and unless you have a couple of PvP gods on hand to help you get there, it’s gonna take time, effort and practice if you want to make it into that bracket.

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    • It's not supposed to be balanced, it's random. They never said anything otherwise.

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    • Bearbeitet von Rain: 10/13/2021 8:26:03 AM
      Checked your games and you played average to below teams lol. You're lying aswell about other seasons attempts considering this is the only season you've attempted. They've made flawless extremely obtainable this season (people are getting solo flawless's aswell). Once you hit flawless you're automatically in the flawless pool regardless of going to the lighthouse (as long as it's turned on). People are farming a flawless ticket to farm adept weapons because they have a random chance to drop on wins with a flawless card. Freelance isn't going to save trials for solos just look at comp and ib lol. Trials is accessible to non full time gamers considering I'm average to below in PvP and a PvE main that works full time. No offense but being a top 90% player like yourself I think you need to keep at it, practice and maybe find a team? The lighthouse isn't for everyone and shouldn't be a handout tho it's extremely easy and obtainable this season especially on a Sunday to Monday.

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      • [quote]So I have been trying to get a flawless trials completion for the past few seasons with no luck. This season, with all the effort Bungie was putting into trials the first few weeks, I had hoped to finally get it. That being said, it seems that the developers have purposely redacted all the positive changes they had made to matchmaking (ie. solo queue separate from fireteams) for no apparent reason. Every match i have had this past weekend has resulted in 1 of 3 ways. 1) I get paired against an obviously hardcore trials player with full adept weapons. 2) I get matched up against 3 stacks, which obviously have an advantage over a team of solo queues for communication purposes alone, let alone coordinated strikes, flanking, etc. 3) I find myself in a match against a 3 stack of flawless titled players and want to blow my brains out, because Bungie refuses to make the matchmaking comprehensive. Bungie, in my opinion, your second week of trials this season had the best matchmaking so far. My suggestion is to roll that back and work from there. One strategy I have heard of flawless completion players using to farm weapons is to hold a flawless ticket and simply not leave for the lighthouse, since when they go to the lighthouse they are supposedly put in another tier of the player base, which I currently find hard to believe due to my matching lately. I suggest that after a player has completed a flawless ticket, immediately after their final match, as opposed to being taken to orbit, they are immediately sent to the lighthouse and, in the case of internet connectivity issues/force closing the game to prevent this from happening, rewards be sent to the post master, and they be entered into the new flawless bracket of competition so that players such as myself who are admittedly not full-time gamers can have a chance at getting the adept weapons. Something has to give Bungie, because the current state is ready to make me leave your game, just because there's no way forward through that aside from paying for a carry which I refuse to do.[/quote] You’re mostly playing average and below average players. Flawless isn’t going to be obtainable for everyone, nor should it. Your problem with the matchmaking isn’t that it’s unbalanced, it’s the opposite.

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        • Likewise here, I feel like the solo queue it's more of a squad finder rather than a way to get flawless, yes you can get to flawless matchmaking alone but It tends to be a mess, try to find some friends to play with, I found some this way and the chances to get flawless increase, if not, you rank trials up and maybe get some crispy loot.

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        • The matchmaking is not the problem. You only played a total of 11 games of trials this week. That is not enough games to blame matchmaking. You managed a .56 KD during these 11 games. This is not going to be strong enough to play with randoms. You need to make connections. There is always some way or someone that can help. I have a close friend with worse stats than you but he managed to go flawless this week for the first time ever. You know how many games he played of trials? 55. While looking through your game outcomes, I noticed that you have 137 hours TOTAL. Only way to get better is to consistently attempt to get better. Also while looking at your game outcomes, there was only one game where a player had a solid KD of 1.8. A majority of the games where you lost, their top player had less than a 1 KD. The players you are being matched with are not good players. I am not downing you, but you can’t blame the matchmaking when the matchmaking is trying its best to give you good games. I am more than willing to help you get a flawless if you’d like. Here to help if you need it, it’s all about making connections!

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          • stop crying and get good, problem solved

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          • You do have that matchmaking. Just on Sunday and Monday instead of all weekend. If someone goes flawless, they are in a separate pool vs non flawless players.

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            • Once I’ve been flawless, I have found only matching other players that have been flawless. Try finding better teammates or not doing solo que. might better the odds

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