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9/27/2021 1:35:56 PM
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Too many Catalyst required Crucible matches
At my age born in the early 50’s, I do not have the reflexes to play there anymore, it isn’t fun having 1-3 kills and dying over and over, and those exotics Catalysts requirements are just too many. Bungie, you should always put the option or complete something related to mission or vanguard or lost sectors in all request for anything. Some people like Crucible great! but for the rest of us, give us a choice to get the good stuff too.
Regards
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7 AntwortenIf you don't want to play 100% of the game that's okay it just means you don't get 100% of the rewards. For example I don't want to do GMs to me it's just "Oh boy the same strike for the 5th year in a row but enemies have -blam!- loads of health and nothing else" so I don't get pve adepts
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6 AntwortenBroken record reply, but it is still true. Don't wanna play 100% of the game? That's absolutely fine, but then you don't get 100% of the rewards. Simple as that. Not in a mean or snarky way, just as a matter of fact. If you went to the gym, but hate doing everything related to legs, you're gonna be missing out, as legs are a part of the whole body, whether you like it or not. And no amount of bicep curls is going to make your calves bigger. You want 100% of the gains, you gotta work 100% of the body. You absolutely have the right to forever skip leg day, that's your prerogative. But it should come to no surprise to you, that when you actively skip part of the whole, that you miss out on at least some part. And if you really hate pvp, the cost of never playing it is, you miss out on a small handful of catalysts. I mean, realistically, pvp is at least 30% of the game. You can get like 90-95% of the rewards from the game by only playing 70% of it. Not a bad deal. I don't enjoy raids, nor grand masters. I choose to not participate in those. So, I get NONE of the super cool raid exotics. Nor any adept NF weapons. Why? Because Im actively choosing to not participate in part of the game, so obviously there is a part of the reward pool Im not going to have access too. Im sure everyone will down vote this into oblivion, but if they took a moment to step back and look at it objectively, it would make perfect sense.
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To be fair some are meant for pvp, so they have a high pvp requirement. But other exotics are simply unforgiving. At least they did away with quest like D1 thorn that required you to have a high kd ratio for x number of kills.
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7 AntwortenBearbeitet von Sweet Lew 88: 9/28/2021 9:45:10 PMHow many need PvP? Like 5-8? How many catalysts are there? 50+? 10-15% that seems reasonable. They could do 33% PvE, 33% Gambit and 33% crucible. That small amount seems fairly doable. Especially without negative progression. Anyone that can play the game will eventually be able to finish it. Good thing catalysts aren't needed to beat the game. They are meant to be a bit of an endgame experience. Maybe tough to get, usually grindy to unlock. If you don't like it, don't do it? If you are a completionist, then just expect to need to grind PvP. Don't expect to get all the loot if you choose not to play the whole game? Destiny probably isn't meant for your demographic, I'm glad you are playing though. Destiny is probably meant for players 14-25? People still in grade school and before people have a family and a career. If they made the game easy enough for people only 70+, the game would be too easy. Maybe look at a guide? There are some playlists where it's easier to get kills.
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1 AntwortenSo you’re around 70 years old playing destiny surprised you have t had a stroke yet
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I think op is referring to most of the new exotics we have received via the season pass that require us to get x amount of kills in pvp to unlock the catalyst.
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5 AntwortenIf it's a cruicble weapon then 100% should require pvp. If it's a pve weapon then should require pve but have some pvp options for pvp players as well. Personally they do this to increase pool of players for certain pvp modes. That's what I believe to be honest, I dont think they add pvp steps just because. They want to populate pvp so pvp players dont complain. I really wish that they just give you 2 options, get 25 guardian kills or go kill 50 bosses in pve. That way pvp players are happy and can do theirs in pvp and those who dont want to pvp and stay in pve can do the same.
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For certain catalyst like vigilance wing or mida or suros try doing them when momentum control is active yes mode sucks but u will get kills fast just go in knowing your gonna die alot too
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3 Antworten😂 try to get the mida catalyst and then try to complete it
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I dont like pvp but I suck it up and do it, I always make sure to do the seasonal exotic catalyst once I have x4 progression especially if the exotic is -blam!-
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12 AntwortenAnd with that my catalyst completion rates went down to zero. If it ain’t fun, I ain’t doin it
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22 AntwortenMost pvp catalyst are tied to pvp weapons. A game cant be designed for those who cant really play how its designed to be played. Not everything can be for everybody. Thats rude and sad but its the reality. The pvp in d2 is a huge part of the game and you cant just ignore it because some players just want to have everything without really having to put any efforts, time, skill...etc.. I understand your point of view and i would probably feel the same at your place. I played with a few older players who couldnt even do pvp, but they just accepted that every aspects of the game shouldnt catter to them. They can live with that. Also, the catalysts you get from pvp are mainly useless outside of pvp. As for the seasonnal one...even my older friends are capable of getting 13kills in a few matchs with the seasonnal gun.
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2 AntwortenIf you don't like certain aspects of the game and don't want to play them that's perfectly fine. But you cannot ask for 100% of the rewards if you're not going to play 100% of the game, it's that simple.
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Hahaha, I hate pvp. But even I am capable of doing it. I mean it takes me a lot longer than most people. But I get it done eventually. For example, the witherhorde catalyst. I’ve been at it for more than 4 months. Need 100 Grenade launcher guardian eliminated. I’m at 22 kills. The tommy matchbook catalyst, I had it for 5 months now. I need 100 guardian kills. I’m at a measly 30 kills. Trust me, I try my hardest in pvp. But I’m jus that bad. But honestly, if I get it, I get it. If I don’t. It’s not the end of the world.
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6 AntwortenBearbeitet von TehW3apon: 9/28/2021 4:42:46 PMDo it the way I do and just accept that some things won’t get completed. I have so many open PVP required steps I’m running out of room. I’ve had the Suros and Jade Rabbit catalysts for…man…like around 2 years? Has the game been around that long? Think I got the catalysts around the time of Curse of Osiris or Warmind. I don’t care to play PVP except for the play 3 times to get the pinnacle gear and then I’m done. I will never play trials again so oh well on that.
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You have to do 4 out of 58 in PvP. That would only be 6.9% of the total catalysts. If you count the quests for the Pass Exotics, it's 12 out of 58 in PvP. That would be 20.7% of the total catalysts. This is relatively few catalysts you have to do in PvP, so there aren't really too many.
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2 AntwortenThere's to many Catalyst's That Require PVE. Sword cuts both ways.
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5 AntwortenIf only the catalysts that drop in crucible would actually drop...
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It’s best if you wait for Momentum Control and try to go for the kills there. If you are having trouble, this is the best solution.
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5 AntwortenSome catalysts require 450 match made activities. I just got catalysts from the first weapons released on launch day of D2. Catalysts are also locked behind deleted content like the farm. The development is so mismanaged it makes me angry.
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13 AntwortenEspecially when you need 50... 50!!!! guardian kills with the freakin' Cryosthesia 77K sidearm. While every sweat is all "ssssssnipe! BOOM, SPLASH, CRASH, SPLAT" ... you're all like "pew pew pew."
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9 AntwortenHere. Let me break down the math. Realistically, most destiny players do not play pvp, don't want to play pvp. The reason certain cats require pvp or at least progress faster in pvp is to drag you into pvp so that the sweats have "plebs" to "stomp" so that content creators can make pvp look fun and easy. You're basically the essential workers. Unvalued, under rewarded for your contribution, but the entire system collapses without you. That is why they either require pvp or are an intolerable grind without pvp. Because they need weak players in pvp to make the system work, because this whole mess with trials prove emphatically that the sweaty players will not play pvp if they have to play against other sweaty players.
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8 AntwortenAs a player that avoids PVP at all costs, I sympathize with your resistance towards playing PVP, but you need to understand that it is simply a part of the game. If PVP takes longer to get requirements done, don't worry about getting them done quickly, most of the time, they can be done over the course of the season. Let me give a counterexample, one of the best PVP shotguns in the game is the Retold Tale which requires playing a lot of old PVE content, including the Shattered Throne dungeon. In this instance: [quote]A PVP player is required to play some PVE content in order to get a weapon they will only use in PVP.[/quote] If I make a few adjustments: [quote]A [b]PVE[/b] player is required to play some [b]PVP[/b] content in order to get a [b]weapon catalyst[/b] they will only use in [b]PVE[/b].[/quote] This is not a "git gud" comment, but simply saying it is part of the game.
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1 AntwortenAgreed. Bungie is overly reliant on nudge theory. Instead of trying to nudge players into Crucible and Gambit, just trust them to find out for themselves what they enjoy and reward them for engaging with the game however they choose.
