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Bearbeitet von Vayrenn Aster:
1/25/2021 4:35:35 PM
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Petition to bring back SBMM
i think im going to file a petition to put SBMM back in the game one way or another, PVP is so toxic and unplayable for players like myself who die by hand cannons every 2 shots and have no counter towards it, i know the streamers dont even mostly play this game anymore(the ones that asked for CBMM) so why dont we have a vote for better PVP cuz come on, this is getting out of hand bungie!
edit: to clarify i dont want to replace CBMM i want SBMM back, why cant we have both?
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6 AntwortenBearbeitet von RussellMania: 1/26/2021 6:58:44 AM[quote]i think im going to file a petition to put SBMM back in the game one way or another, PVP is so toxic and unplayable for players like myself who die by hand cannons every 2 shots and have no counter towards it, i know the streamers dont even mostly play this game anymore(the ones that asked for CBMM) so why dont we have a vote for better PVP cuz come on, this is getting out of hand bungie! edit: to clarify i dont want to replace CBMM i want SBMM back, why cant we have both?[/quote] Factually incorrect complaint about handcannons... Check. Implication that only streamers asked for CBMM... Check. Has no idea that the game already has both SBMM and CBMM, then suggests that very thing... Check. Yup, it checks out. Typical SBMM post. Throw it in the garbage with the rest.
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29 AntwortenBearbeitet von OBI-SWEDE KENOBI: 1/31/2021 8:28:55 AMAll you that want CBMM are out for a quick win. You don't want to face your equals, Instead you wanna stomp lower stats K/D players to make yourself feel good.
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I hope sbmm comes back. Think it will. Its always a circle with bungie. Cbmm chases the bottom half away from the game.
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24 AntwortenPpl only want cbmm for easy wins its as simple as that. Too scared of an actual challenge.
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7 AntwortenPlayers should be matched by light level. Not have it enabled, but just match by it.
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To answer your edit. CBMM players wanted an option too, an even balance when SBMM was in every mode except 1. And guess what the SBMM players said "Suck it up and go play Classic mix" So... "Suck it up and go play Comp" 😁
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SBMM is bad
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2 AntwortenSBMM should be much farther ahead. Jesus.
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Bearbeitet von BraddyBo: 1/27/2021 2:08:40 AMSbmm w/team based matchmaking (balances fireteam + solo #s) is the fair thing to do but ONLY if dedicated servers are implemented AND there is tiered progression/loot so players are actually rewarded for being better (up to ~8x multiplier). Without those 2 things, sbmm is terrible because all it does is punishes skilled players and rewards bad players without giving an incentive for becoming better (actually does the opposite).
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There are not nearly enough people playing to support SBMM. Also no dedicated servers.
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sbmm is terrible, you guys just want it so you can finally stomp someone, maybe u should just get good at the game and stop complaining coz i can guarantee that if sbmm comes back ur all gunna complain about lag. just git gud noobs :)
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2 AntwortenI hope they keep cbmm in for ages just to show how bad the thing really is.
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2 AntwortenIron Banner still has SBMM and i'm loving Bungie for it that they did not Change it. Iron Banner is in all of PvP my Most loved PvP Activity.. why :Spoiler: it has SBMM every playlist that uses CBMM is like putting 2 Footballs teams together 1st Team Kids and Teens 2th Team Adults that have Coultless Hours played Football and are Masters of this Sport Now you make a Game with them resulting in unbalanced ods and Frustration... in PvP this is like You want to have a Fun Time, Que up for a Match, join the Match just to see that your Team is made out of Soft and Mushy Potatos and the other team are Young newborn PvP Gods that have Ascend beyond Mortals and Stomp your lobby and Mop the Floor with your Tears In Iron Banner SBMM is on i still have a nice Challenge and Good Opponents that don't destroy the entire Team in a matter of Seconds and i have a Good Time like everyone else wants to have in PvP but with only CBMM avaliable for nearly all PvP playlists i understand why everyone that is not a God is fed up with this CBMM and Lag BS
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31 AntwortenBearbeitet von Double07: 4/21/2021 7:01:49 PM[b] [/b]
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31 AntwortenBearbeitet von WoLFMaN_V2: 1/25/2021 5:15:27 PMOmg it's disgusting and pathetic how many people votes to have SBMM. This isn't a real sport where we need skill divisions, gender divisions, weight classes etc........It is a video game. Everyone should get everything no mater what? This is a sad mentality. It's not fair he is better than me why does he get to play vs me 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭. Gimme a break, man up. You don't like that people are better than you at PvP? Go kill adds in PvE that's what it is there for.
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I’ve become convinced it’s been turned back on this season without anyone knowing. So, so much sweatier than it was last season. Unless of course the majority of the player base has stopped playing to the point where pretty much only the hardcore remain. Another possibility would be that stasis just takes all the remaining skill out of the game. Also there’s probably so many variables now in the game that pretty much anyone can go off in matches. It’s just weird now...things in crucible have just been weird ever since beyond light began.
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SBMM is back for sure
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1 Antwortenkinda hard to improve with the curret meta being the way it is, i also have a very bad reaction speed time, The Steady Hand 2 shots me and i cant react, and the felwinter's 1 shots me soon as im at AR range, ive played over 20 games, am i improving, uh, no there needs to be a option to ether toggle or have a 6v6 other then control for SBMM, survival is only 3v3 and im a solo player(since all my friends have quit this game) if i have a bad team, like i always do i suffer still, i get you guys want your easy kills with CBMM, but its still laggy af it made no difference at all.
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[quote]edit: to clarify i dont want to replace CBMM i want SBMM back, why cant we have both? [/quote] Why does the post not reflect this?
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8 AntwortenCbmm with better lobby balancing. Currently it feels like both cbmm and lobby balancing are both not working as intended.
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10 AntwortenYeah no thanks. This game is laggy enough as is. And we already have a sbmm. It’s the comp playlist. If that doesn’t appeal, think about why, and then realize another version of that is what is entailed by sbmm.
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I don’t think either will work at this point. So many people have left already. Pvp is becoming a secondary trials because pretty much EVERYONE is being run out. Sbmm and cbmm cannot thrive without a healthy population. Everyone is being run out of the crucible. Even pros are starting to run out. Trials will never work. This isn’t destiny 1. Players mentality has changed DRASTICALLY. Recovs rule the playlist, and I doubt even locking the best rewards behind trials would save it. It would only push recovs further. No low skill player is going to step into it reguardless. You can make it so that you could get a drop during a match. But being slaughtered over and over again and the fact that the drop rate would probably be on the same level as iron banner, combined with the probability of getting a decent roll is less then 1%... This solution in reality would burn out gamers just as quickly and people dropping trials is inevitable. The cbmm and sbmm debate is irrelevant right now. The population is so ABYSMAL that you’ll be set with only the remaining high level pvp players regardless, and laggers, and cheaters whether it’s cbmm or sbmm now, because the game has to cut corners lobby wise every match to actually start the game. You’ll be facing high level players regardless, because their now the only ones left playing pvp.
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5 AntwortenBearbeitet von michael: 1/25/2021 9:59:22 PMI agree with SBMM in moderation. Add a SBMM/comp rumble playlist and make the rotating modes SBMM. Leave classic mix CBMM for those who seek it, but the fact of the matter is that forced CBMM in every mode drives people away.
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I think there is almost always some of both, but one method inevitably has to be heavily prioritized, and so previously skill was by far the largest factor in matchmaking. In my opinion Iron Banner and Competitive(survival) should have sbmm and fireteam matchmaking (so a 3 stack in comp will match against other 3 stacks), trials should be card based, but with players who have gone flawless that week in a separate bracket, and all other playlists should have cbmm. Cbmm makes matches more truly fair because it is about skill rather than connection. If you want what you would consider a "fair" fight (opponents of relative skill level) then you can play competitive. Competitive is for close, [u]competitive[/u] matches, and quickplay modes are for quick matches with as little lag as possible where players can have fun not caring who wins, but good players can show off their skills.
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We need MMR matchmaking
