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Destiny 2 Dev Update - Rewards

[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Explore/Detail/News/49957]Destiny 2 Developer Update - Rewards[/url]
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  • "Play the way you want, but with the weapons we choose for you to use." -sunsetting

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    • I just fail to understand why the power ecosystem needs to be focused on a 'new meta' on a constant basis. Designing weaponry with a meta in mind seems antithetical to good game design anyway. There should be no meta in a well balanced game. All options should be on the table, some better than others in certain situations of course. I dont understand why the content weve all paid for has to be revoked for there to be new rewards in the game. It just seems senseless. Do all the things you just said but leave my regular old legendary guns, half of which im still getting, alone. Its infuriating to be barred from my old weapons for what seems like no real reason.

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      • Great update Joe thank you.

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      • Great update. Nice one guys 👍

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      • Really sucks that i can't compete with felwinters after returning to Destiny 2 all other high impact shotguns have been sunsetted so trials is going to he extremely hard to play without it but i have to wait 2 months for the next season to get it when it should have been in the kiosk to begin with or at least give new/returning players the felwinters quest

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        • What is really bothering me in this article, is a game director running around the Bungie offices asking the question below: [quote]There’s a thing I ask a lot around the virtual office, “How are we making every Season the best time to jump back into Destiny?”[/quote] Wouldn't the better question be: "How do we make content that keeps our players playing thru every season, right until the next season starts?" Just a thought...

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          • You know things are bad when your streamers are making public comments that “there’s no game here” to do daily streams on... And then the apologies...wow am I sick of you apologizing for your own bad decisions - I’m going to go through all of your apology announcements and post them in one place so everyone can see what kind of a company you really are...

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          • Wait there are rewards to playing this game? Really? All I've been getting is tired old Gear from D1 and Seasons Past. You mean there's something "New"?

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            • You’re missing the entire point of why we play the game. The reward loop, this year will be the end of Destiny as we know it without a D1 type of reward loop. A reason to play the game. Of course I’ll stick around to watch, but this year will be an extremely slow stagnation of the game if it’s not fixed.

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            • Bearbeitet von Niinja Slayer: 12/14/2020 6:49:52 AM
              Tone Deaf among other things. Literally every release is “our bad” “we’re listening but actually doing nothing”. So what... another year to address a problem that won’t actually be addressed? Yeah, no.

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            • Bearbeitet von Blue Spy 3DO: 12/13/2020 9:32:39 PM
              How tone deaf can you be? The “give us another chance” and “we will do better with the next dlc” commentary has been going on since Vanilla D1. People aren’t being unreasonable when they ask for their time and effort to be respected. Sunsetting and power caps in the form you have released them do neither and are outright insulting. It doesn’t take an entire community screaming at the top of its lungs for months that this is wrong for someone to know long before it was implemented that SUNSETTING WAS WRONG! Any effort required to make sunsetting successful was clearly not put in to the point you had to walk back your decision and rerelease old gear because you clearly had no intention of replacing it with new and “fresh” gear you keep promising but failing to deliver.

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            • Cosmo. For the love of god, at least leave armor alone and not sunset it. Think about this here. Armor have 4 layers of rng behind it. 1: actually getting it to drop 2: high total stat 3: proper distribution of stat according to build 4: must compliment other pieces of armor to make build effective Now do you have any idea how hard it is for a player to farm all the pieces of armor to make their build? And their build has nothing to do with sandbox meta and weapon ttk. Sunsetting armor literally makes no sense, and should these players end up not being able to replace these armor pieces with “newer” pieces with almost exact similar stats to keep their build. How many do you think will just stop trying and ultimately stop playing the game all together? Artificially inflating play time isn’t the way to go here. You guys are hemorrhaging player numbers by the day, new ftp players will end up leaving once they become under the affect of your sunsetting logic. They just don’t know any better yet. Keyword “YET” Let’s talk about weapons later when covid is over, I’m sure you guys deserve the benefit of the doubt due to lock downs and limited studio resources.

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            • Bearbeitet von Rogue: 12/9/2020 4:13:29 AM
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              [quote]Soon to expire weapons[/quote] Like for real, you guys are going to double down on this? What is the point of playing this game if everything has an expiration date on it? Rotate out the crap that no one is using, bring in more interesting weapons, exclusive perks. The argument of “we have to remove old things or people won’t use the new things,” is so god damn flawed. Light level and power caps is ancillary to what makes an interesting weapon. If players aren’t using new things it’s because you’re failing to make compelling weapons. Forcing their hand is admitting defeat. Sunsetting on this scale is the most disgraceful thing you guys have ever done as developers. Not only are you failing to make new, interesting gear, you have made everything that was interesting obsolete. There’s a great game here, buried under 6ft of mediocrity.

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              • i think you all at bungie should watch this and think about maybe using some of this ideas in pvp

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                • Really excited to run Grandmasters for the adept weapons. My fire team and I haven’t run grandmasters at all, now we’re excited to give them a try!

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                • Just remove power levels their pointless.

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                  Awesome another year to address the problem.

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                  • Bearbeitet von Fred Fredburger: 12/13/2020 6:02:07 PM
                    Yet again, Bungie missed the point entirely. This entire statement basically acknowledges that sunsetting was a mistake, then doubles down on it. You guys are truly clueless. Way too little, way too late.

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                  • Bearbeitet von Tru-Zrue: 12/11/2020 12:39:03 PM
                    Mmmmm....it’s a start but y’all still ignoring the obvious. Players knew it, Pepperidge farm knew it, hell even the kid (who knows nothing about this game) holding the balloon knew it.[spoiler]sunset was a mistake. Especially armor. I haven’t been playing because I don’t wanna feel like I’ve wasted time playing. Which is why I skipped the last two dlcs. Almost got this one because of hawkmoon. But how stupid would I have to be to pay $50 for one weapon[/spoiler] Edit: My constant salt and -blam!- aside, I...WE want this community thrive, we want to tell new players to come(instead of telling them Steer clear of) to the game, but we also want to feel like our time playing matters. Constantly changing world sound amazing, but my loot should be updated with it, not removed and reintroduced. If this game is meant to go on for years to come and not just simply end like destiny did(kinda), the approach you’re taking needs to be change. Everything needs to matter. All the content, loot, activities, destinations need to matter. I see a few devs taking the approach of letting players download part of the game they want, maybe that’s not a bad idea. I mean, if space is the issue. [quote]Ideas: 1. Turns perks into mods, remove them from all loot and let players go crazy with customization. Meaning everything. Guns, shaders, ghost, armor/gun perks, etc. Balance those mods and the guns separately. Let us masterwork and put stat points were we want them on certain loot. 2. Update venders on all destinations, add a Ranking system like in d1, and Weapon or armor package system like in d1 when ranking up. Do this maybe once a year but that update damn well better not have ugly loot. And if the battle pass stays it should have no impact on the in game loot. 3. Progression needs a overhaul. Resources, all of it. Fix it. Light increase one a year or every six months. Artificial grind suck rn. And stop with these repeated slot items/bad rng. 4. Customizable difficulty level across all of pve. That mean lost sectors, patrols, NF strikes, raids, etc. A card or device that lets you decide how hard activities are. Harder it is, the better the rewards. Device would focus on your current light level. And Srl....it’s been time...for years now. Oh ALL mission on map represented destinations. Bring back the Menagerie, poe, and the forge. 5. Smart rng. And Or give is more control over the slot the power bump goes too. 7. There should be an event every week. SrL one week, mayhem everything (pvp/pve) another, faction wars, and iron banner. Just so that there never a dull moment. Again abandoned that 10 year bs and think loooong term. These things could be dlc packs where players can pick and choose what they want on their systems. If I dont like gambit I don’t have to download that dlc, etc. And if you’re charging for these updates? Fine but they better be worth every cent. No half assed bs. Last but not least, everything in game should look just as good as in my store if not better. There you have it. The perfect game. Now all bungie would have to do is fix bugs/balance the game, and worry about the battle pass for the year. Players would play their way, play what they want how they want, and get what they want. Players would feel respected, and want to spend money....but I dream😔. Expansions would come when they come and if people -blam!- so be it...we’d have so much content to choose from there should be no crying. [/quote]

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                    • Oh bungie, just love how you always do 1 step forward 3 steps back and about 2 sideways.....

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                    • So Joe when is Bungie going to live up to its promises? We were told if you had a set of armor you liked that got sunset you would be able to make the new armor look like that. That didn't happen. Why? Everything drops sublevel, so I am grinding for what? You make upgrade mods impossible to get on a weekend, why would you do that? You better show me something in Dawning because I am not seeing the reason to use my time here.

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                    • I'll come back when you clowns start making new content and not reskinned weapons or armor that we have to re grind and re grind and re grind for. Porting content, weapons or armor over from D1 IS NOT new content. So glad I did not buy BL and quiting the game 5 months ago.

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                      • Can you make the moon and dreaming city loot 1410 too? Please? that way you increase the loot pool and give a breath of life to the old destinations besides raiding, even if it's not retroactive with already acquired loot, just from here forward, that way there would be more options for gear to use and when the new expansion comes just press the reset button and give the destination loot a new expiration that way you give replayability and longevity to that content.

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                      • Hey bungie even though everyone is complaining about the new expansion, and are continuing to complain even though you are giving solid feedback I want to thank all you guys for releasing some of the best content you've released in awhile. I can't wait for the upcoming seasons and expansions coming out. Keep up the good work and again thank you for working so hard.

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                        • Bearbeitet von Azzkicker527: 12/10/2020 3:48:58 PM
                          There should be no sunsetting beyond what has already taken place. The issues where the pinnacle weapons and that has been addressed. Armor should never expire, just remove the mods that you dont want to see carried over into future seasons. If you want players to pursue new weapons and armor then make them look good cosmetically (season of dawn) and put in perks people want to go for.

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