This is definitely not a bug. As a low-content looter-shooter developer, what Bungie is right now, this "bug" is definitely intended. They need grind to keep the players playing the game.

Ah KG we meet again. Its nice to see you on the right side of things, and as another hardcore player since d1, I agree fully. I've been disappointed in the holiday events in destiny for years and for a simple reason. Rewards. You play another game during halloween or christmas and the rewards usually feel worth it. Something to grind for, something new. I uniquely themed set of armor, weapons, ships etc. In destiny it's just "oh here's a mummified Arcadia, ghost and sparrow". Its boring, bland, unimaginative. This year does not have a new weapon, or even a weapon skin for the "new versions" of the returning guns. We don't need some god tier weapon either, just something to stand out from the rest of the game. Imagine coming up to Eva and looking in her inventory and seeing a jagged/damaged scout rifle all covered in cobwebs or something. That would hit the theme. Put that next to a UFO themed ship and you have yourself a Halloween event. Obviously that's not especially creative in itself but it popped into my head in about 10 seconds, so what's the dev team doing? We need more themed loot during holidays. Christmas should have icy themed guns/armor too. Not just dawning color shaded guns KG we've had our disagreements before and I'm sure we will again but we definitely need to stand together with this type of thing. The events are underwhelming to say the least and the store is way too expensive. I support in game shops but not for $10 emotes and $15 armor ornaments. Let's not fight, whether we agree or not, but we can debate if that's what it comes to.

Yup, managed to talk my buddy into farming for some Cyphers today. After about 3 hours and he’s gotten 4 he said “welp, I’m going back to Division where my time matters.” That a true statement. Right now they have an apparel even going on and the loot is actually obtainable. Got to say that I don’t know if I can do this grind to 45 keys or not...

Has to be a bottleneck somewhere. If the rolls are random the ciphers need to be flowing more freely. It's not that they refuse to listen. They simply keep choosing the path of least resistance and worry about it later. Like a few games out there. We're forever in Beta release instead of a finished product. It's the price we pay for settling for lack luster half baked games. I'll take my time grinding this event this year cuz warlock go skrrt skrrt. But to have expected anything well structured was dumb. They're polishing the looks of Beyond Light then gonna go on break for a month while we deal with the problems they "didn't foresee tm". TLDR: Event was a copy paste with an added bottleneck to keep people playing repeatedly. But companies (especially Bungie in Destiny) need to start wisening up. Their players aren't as dumb as they once were. Ooooh before I forget. They did get generous when they added infusion. They get too generous we swing to far in the wrong direction and we're back at square one. Hopefully they get as close to balance as they can.

I have 4 you can have mine... why u guys spent time on such a useless event for weapons u will never ever use?

ep round 7 final boss the chest he drops seems to have a high cipher drop rate :)

[quote]The drop rates for Ciphers is so **disastrously** low, that you guys really need to get ahead of this, and offer the player base some sort of explanation. My only hope is that this is some sort of **bug** that manged to get past the quality-testers, and that this wasn't a deliberate strategy. Rght now its looking like the drop rate for ciphers is less than one per hour of game play, which is simply unacceptable. Not only is this level of **stinginess** (there is simply no other word for it) shocking, it is a worst-case scenario. In that you have both a large loot pool AND a currency that being heavily-throttled. Result? I played for several hours yesterday, and managed to get a grand total of 4 Ciphers....and THREE of those were because I played on two characters, played the initial strike, and was lucky enough to get a two-for-one drop on my second character. Three hours of world play---including two 1020 Nightfalls netted me ONE Cipher. The only gun that I received was an Omolon sidearm that has been dropping in the game for THREE years now. WTF?!?!? Here's what stinginess with rewards costs you: I LIKE 450 ARs, and had the reward structur for this even been reasonable, I'd have been happy to grind to get good rolls for these weapons to position myself well for the upcoming year and replace the ones I will lose to Sunsetting. But, given what's going on right now, what WILL happen I will resentfully put in the hours to get the cosmetic items from Eva....and then I'm out. UNREWARDED grinding IS NOT CONTENT. Dragging out thin content with super low drop rates will not incentivize players to play more. It will make them angry and cause them TO DISENGAGE from the game. The player base has been telling you this for years, but you just **stubbornly** refuse to listen...... Why?[/quote] Welcome to the "Free-to-play" model of Destiny my friend! :) I've nearly completed the season pass twice over and just this week 1069 light.

They made a conscious change which means they know but they just don't gaf.

On top of that the weapon drop rate from the cheats seems poor. I hoarded 5 decoders and opened all 5 chest -> no auto. My friend opened 3 and also received no weapon drop. Considering the poor cipher drop rate it doesn’t give any incentive to do this event. Oh but don’t worry I got some old weapons that are being sunset to drop at 750. Nice.

Shit would be patched within an hour if we were getting too much ciphers. Guaranteed.

Mate, if even you are getting pissed off with this game, then I know it’s time to leave. May I suggest Avengers? That’s keeping me going until cyberpunk. I haven’t played D2 for a few weeks now and I gotta tell you, it feels good!

I must've taken all the ciphers cause I've gotten one on almost every strike.

Making things slower to obtain = being a bad human being. Some people really feel emotionally attacked when they don't get the easy way.

When fireteam members open chests with ciphers, do you also get the drops?