Funny thing is, if it was any other person making this post, everyone would agree. But since its you, kelly... well, this happened.

Honestly expected people to troll this post with kellygreen quotes

[quote]The drop rates for Ciphers is so **disastrously** low, that you guys really need to get ahead of this, and offer the player base some sort of explanation. My only hope is that this is some sort of **bug** that manged to get past the quality-testers, and that this wasn't a deliberate strategy. Rght now its looking like the drop rate for ciphers is less than one per hour of game play, which is simply unacceptable. Not only is this level of **stinginess** (there is simply no other word for it) shocking, it is a worst-case scenario. In that you have both a large loot pool AND a currency that being heavily-throttled. Result? I played for several hours yesterday, and managed to get a grand total of 4 Ciphers....and THREE of those were because I played on two characters, played the initial strike, and was lucky enough to get a two-for-one drop on my second character. Three hours of world play---including two 1020 Nightfalls netted me ONE Cipher. The only gun that I received was an Omolon sidearm that has been dropping in the game for THREE years now. WTF?!?!? Here's what stinginess with rewards costs you: I LIKE 450 ARs, and had the reward structur for this even been reasonable, I'd have been happy to grind to get good rolls for these weapons to position myself well for the upcoming year and replace the ones I will lose to Sunsetting. But, given what's going on right now, what WILL happen I will resentfully put in the hours to get the cosmetic items from Eva....and then I'm out. UNREWARDED grinding IS NOT CONTENT. Dragging out thin content with super low drop rates will not incentivize players to play more. It will make them angry and cause them TO DISENGAGE from the game. The player base has been telling you this for years, but you just **stubbornly** refuse to listen...... Why?[/quote] Manufactured scarcity is how “loot games work”. Unrewarded grinding has been the main function of D2 since its release, so its really nothing new. I think you’re correct: it’s not content, it has caused millions of players to disengage from the game, it is feedback as old as launch, and it is part of the context which makes sunsetting rub players the wrong way. I would love to see Bungie get it together and turn it around.

You just want it easy KG. Youre a whiner. Must be a new light player. Oh how the mighty have fallen and swapped roles.

Calm down dang I played yesterday for about 11 hours and I am at 21 cypers currently so the drop rate is low but do the right activities and it make it fun Think non-linear activities that are quick bc I am not giving out by farming strategy

My obligatory comment roasting you for obvious reasons #notmykellygreen In all seriousness, how could you not see this coming? I logged on a couple times during a recent work trip, but did nothing and logged right off. Not been playing for a while. This was so obvious.

*sips coffee* So is this one of those moments that finally made you explode KG? 😉

Seems like you're coming around KG

I’m just wanting them to not allude to do it being an issue and just say if it was intentional or not. Otherwise we will just be running the same ole “woah is me” circles we always end up with when issues pop up and no real clarity to what is going down is achieved. Not even hating the game. Barely playing but that is more to do with my absurd work schedule these days and not product dissatisfaction. But that is more to do with me knowing that anything I had grievances with wouldn’t be addressed until Beyond light at minimum so I didn’t see the point on putting myself in the negative headspaces that tend to foster here.

I must have woken up in an alternate dimension. A kellygreen post or comment that has upvotes. Unreal... lmao.

The usual multilayered RNG grind Bungie has been shoving down our throats since the Warmind DLC to make us believe there is “content”. If we don’t stop buying, they will never change, vote with your wallet people and stop pre ordering DLCs.

You know, I honestly don't think anyone will tell you that what you're saying here is wrong. But I think the reason you're getting such a push back is due to the push back you had given everyone else when they tried to warn you about this long before it ever occurred to you as being a problem. Imagine how different this game would be today if Bungie had such a strongly motivated player of their game asking for positive change alongside the rest of us years ago...

Wait, is it not Bungie's game and they can do whatever they want? Ahh, I get it... You're annoyed, so NOW it's an issue. SMH.

It's almost like the company is being run by and is full of employees who hate gamers. Wouldn't surprise me one bit with all the stuff surfacing with the blizzard staff. Bungie is very similar to blizzard in a lot of ways. That company is totally infected with feminist SJW blue twitter check mark weirdos who hate gamers and even more so hate men. I bet ya Bungie is very similar.

Keep the player on the hamster wheel

This is definitely not a bug. As a low-content looter-shooter developer, what Bungie is right now, this "bug" is definitely intended. They need grind to keep the players playing the game.