Please explain how a team of professionals came up with the idea to make weapons that were very hard to acquire be ultimately irrelevant and unusable. Some of the pinnacle quests (I’m looking at you Mountaintop and Redrix) were amongst the longest and most difficult in the entire life of Destiny 1 and 2. Yet you are implementing a system that makes that grind utterly worthless. Yet exotics, weapons that just randomly drop in your lap will be valid choices? Don’t get me wrong, exotics should be valid....they’re special and difficult to acquire. This is exactly my point with pinnacles. I am a primarily PvE player. I utterly hate the toxicity involved in today’s PvP arena and refuse to engage in these kinds of activities...and I do mean “hate” PvP. So imagine how hard Mountaintop, Recluse and the gawd awful Redrix were to acquire for me and others who feel similar. I understand you want weapons to be passed around. You don’t want a “meta”, where everyone uses only one loadout.
I’m warning you here and now, if you take away weapons that were so difficult to get and/or make them useless you are going to lose a large amount of loyal, long-time players.
It hasn’t hit home yet because players can still use their pinnacle weapons. But once it sinks in that all of that time and hard work were literally for nothing, you will feel the impact in that spot you love more than anything else....Bungie’s bank account.
If you feel you must remove pinnacles to change up the meta then instead, rotate them. It could work like this...
- When the pinnacles return, they will be at the appropriate level, meaning if a player kept said pinnacle in their vault it would cap at that season’s level. Not “okay, Recluse is back. Go do the quest again”. If the player had deleted the pinnacle then it would be in that players drop pool. Lastly, if the player had never acquired the pinnacle then of course they must do the appropriate quest to receive said pinnacle.
I, for one think this is by far the most unintelligent, slap-in-the-face, disrespectful, greedy and destructive decision Bungie has ever made in its lifespan.
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The reason is that pinnacles are way too strong and are kinda op. And a select few have dominated the metas for a very long time. They need to be ussured our. And mountain top quest wasn’t long. Luna’s howl and all the gambit ones were much longer than it
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If you actually worked hard to get it you got to use it for over a year. If not, you can use it in most pvp and low level pve content.
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There are tons of good guns not being sunset. Infact my whole load out is really non sunset weapons. Look around there are tons of good guns most better than pinnacles these days.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if this is bungies way of removing poor design decisions without outright deleting them because this sunset has precedence. They did this in d1 and removed elemental primaries and black hammer because they broke game balance. Mountaintop is the best example I am aware of in balance breaking in current game because I quit for 2 years and that was one of first guns I heard mentioned from that 2 year gap and for obvious reasons that forum rants and people suggesting how people “get good” at pvp. At best bungie accepts they made a mistake and grudgingly let you use it till they throw it in closet with an under light problem on it. Given how long it took me in d1 to get gjallarhorn I am positive that doing the pinnacle quests is less of a pain than that even after seeing objectives required on them. I do understand why this sucks and completely agree they shouldn’t do it, but I also don’t expect that to stop them. Powerful weapons don’t fare well on d2 because they went with the cod route where everything feels ultra balanced rather than the fun route where you try new stuff because it sounds interesting and fun to use.
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It’s a team that thinks their shit smells nice.
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Bungie shouldn't sunset normal legendary weapons. It's stupid.
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Sunset my gear, sunset my business.
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Bungie loves undoing their own efforts in the worst ways imaginable.
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2 AntwortenSunsetting all weapons because of pinnacles is a terrible idea. So is this blatant way of telling players how to play. Part of what appealed to me about Destiny was that I could use the weapons I wanted - meta or not. I spent a lot of time acquiring all kinds of weapons that suit me, including the pinnacles. The fact that now I’d have to rent whatever flavor of the season Bungie is deciding to push on us? A big reason why I stopped playing this game.
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2 AntwortenU realize this whole sunset thing is because of pinnacle guns , right?
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1 AntwortenI can't believe it either. Having a gun problem in a shooting game, right?. . . Why are you even talking about guns?. . . They said Destiny is now an Action game MMA whatever, game. You must buy Finishers from Eververse with real money thrown at the screen because after "Sunsetting," I think your guns will be sitting in the vault when it expires. Also called Vaulted. So Melee Finishers will be the name of the game and will trump everything with a Magic Card combo kick/punch turn magic chop combo cards! . . . That's gonna be new Meta. Like OP! By the way, don't forget to buy your seasonal Trannymogs Armor too from Eververse. Or else your guardians will be naked next season. They like balls, you know?! Okay, Bungie Bye! #sunsetsunsetting!
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Honestly I'm only against redrix being sunset, well crucible wise anyways. This one feels well balanced to me compared to the others because it ends up feeling like a version of kill clip. I do understand though that honestly they really didn't feel thought out enough in how they effect everything. Funny though how it seems like people only care about the pvp pinnacle weapons being sunset.
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2 AntwortenThey never should've existed in the first place. I grinded almost all of them including Mountaintop before the quest was nerfed and I hate that I'm losing them for PVE, but they do need to go for crucible.
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22 AntwortenBearbeitet von yafeelme: 7/11/2020 9:43:23 AMIts a common practice in games similar to Destiny, and before the first expansion of D1, was absolutely the original idea for the game. But, alas, we got some really powerful weapons from VoG and the community threw a damn fit when they realized their favorite weapon would be staying behind. If they had never done that, expectations would have been set. People would know the game destiny is, and would stop running around screaming demands like it was bungies duty to please them. I'm all ears if anyone has a list of games that allow you to keep your gear through each expansion.
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4 AntwortenOnly pinnacle I have is oxygen scout rifle and it is super bad in pve and pvp. The gun needs major love to be considered "pinnacle" lost interest in grinding for pinnacles after that. Just mehh I could care less if they get sunset or deleted.
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19 AntwortenBearbeitet von Swiftlock: 7/11/2020 8:30:01 PMForcing players to finally put down their Revokers and Mountaintops in Iron Banner + Trials is a [u]good thing[/u].
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1 AntwortenI'm fine with it. I've had Luna's for almost 2 years, Mountain top for like 15 or so months. It's time for them to be sunset. It's basically just like nerfing, which they've done for almost 6 years.
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Bungie, you've been warned.
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20 AntwortenHate to break it to you but Bungie is SunSetting in part BECAUSE of pinnacles. They want them out of endgame. Especially MT and Revoker. And Wendigo/21% out for Pve. Luke Smith is all about the PowerCreep that really doesn’t exist in this game.
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What if they took all the old pinnacle perks and made then roll able perks on new weapons. IE- truth teller with micro missile.
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Bearbeitet von Unstoppable_Screeb: 7/11/2020 10:52:30 PMDoesn’t wanna play PvP, complains about PvP weapons getting sunsetted lmao have a day off pal 😂
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Not as unintelligent as mountaintop users
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Sad thing is, that's the point, actually. Bungie doesn't have to bother to balance these weapons if nobody is able to use them in endgame (read as: current or modern) content. There's a few problem children within the pool, and rather than have to balance them with finesse, Bungie has decided to annihilate all of them. ...kind of like what would happen if they made a D3, with a clean slate for the loot pool where problem children aren't introduced to start with.