Came back after not playing D2 for a while. Could upgrade my favorite weapons and get back in the fight. But then i find out my guns are no longer viable for playing the game in a few months time.. I have had it, no point putting time into this game anymore.

I had feared that lazily releasing old content as “new” content was part of the reason sunsetting was becoming a thing. However it seems like it was the only reason, and here I thought season of worthy was bungie’s lowest.

So what you gunna do about it? 🍿

I would love to use all my weapons i have . I would like to change gear and make builds . I spend thousend of hours colect those weapons with good rols and spend alot resourses masterwork many of them . I include the time spent to farm for those resourses . Guess what ... i almost never had a chance to use most of them . Why ? Because i never kept up with the light lvl infusions to keep all my weapons up to a curent light lvl for a certain season . So i had to stick with the few realy good weapons because that is wat i can keep up lvl-ing up to speed for a current seasonal activities and raids while i chase the new seasonal weapons and armors . The infusion cost is absurd high . The masterwork cost is also absurd high for weapons and armor . I just gathered a good stats armors for my 3 characters and masterworked it. And lets talk about Gambit prime armor sets for a moment . Why nobody use them in Gambit prime anymore ? Because we have to regrind it all over again in each new expansion and in every new season we have to light lvl infuse it . Agin the resourses and time for lvl-ing up is the problem . last season i regrinded the armors for my warlock (reaper centry colector ) and my titan (invader) and hunter (invader) and i infuse them up to 1000-1010 . And now what ? Can i play with those armor sets this season before i make them up to 1050 at least ? And then what ? What about next season ? I love to play Prime . Maybe many of you dont like it but this is only an example . Lower the cost for ifusions drasticly . Make a universal armor set to grind for stats and from then on make only new ornaments for that armor set and new catalists to chase in activities and raids insted of new sets of armors because we cant ever use the entire set of armor the way you make it if this does not change . Give us more titles to grind for . Make it like those ornament and catalyst have reasonable drop chance so people grind for them . Dont sunset the weapons . We always go after all the weapons you make . We grind for a good rolls for those weapons and use them throughout the season here and there then store them for later use . like i said i love to mix up my weapons but i mostly don't have the chance to do it except in strikes and i would love to do it in all activities . So that was from me . I cant do this any more . I am concidering quiting the game if sunseting take place . I dont like Bungie get rid of destinations we payed for and store them for later use so we pay for them again in the future . Power creap and Disk space is just an excuse to strip more money form us .

Sunsetting is 100% Pure Unadulterated Bitten, Chewed, Swallowed, Ingested, Digested, Defecated, Texas Steer Manure! Your 100% Right!

Yea, I didn't really care about sunsetting at first because the game is objectively easy and I don't really need any of the guns I've gotten used to... Guess I still don't care but it's pretty lame they're just arbitrarily making old gear obsolete and then replacing it with the exact same thing.

The surprised pickachu face is a pretty accurate representation of this forum right now. We said time and time again that this is what sunsetting would mean. You were warned well in advance. You don't have a right to be angry now.

I tell you something else it's going to do - it's going to make it harder on serious players because casuals (with jobs, and only an hour or 2 each day to play, like me) will just STOP upgrading stuff. We keep using the same loadouts BECAUSE UPGRADES ARE STUPID EXPENSIVE IF THIS ISN'T YOUR JOB. They'll take it as it drops, and start swaping to the next higher power level to keep up, regardless of what it is. Legendary Auto-Rifle with MW 1 level? Use it, it's still got 5 more power than I had. Boots with only Arc Energy 2 and 15 less total stats? Well, it's 4 more light, so it's going on even though I can't put better mods in it, and increase my attributes. Blues? Even better. Always drop with about current power +1 or 2, sometimes even 4 or 5, and can't even attempt to upgrade really. EVEN MORE SAVINGS! "But Kylden, how does this hurt the serious players?" Matchmaking activities. See, once I figured out masterwork guns make Orbs of Light, I started making them, if only to help THE FIRETEAM by making more orbs. Armor upgrades let me get more attributes, which make me more efficient? Started doing that to at least 5 or 6. Finally started working toward an full Masterwork set on my hunter since I play that the most (mainly cause first, in hindsight I like the party support options of Warlock better). This let's me help my teams faster. Like I said, I'm casual, so I don't get a ton of materials. Were it not for the Stadia free trial giving me the Seasons, I'd have even LESS. Most of my stuff would not be upgraded. But if my crap is going to be sunset, and I have to re-upgrade everything all over again AND get new stuff to increase light level, well, screw it. Not going to upgrade anymore. Just going to take what comes with [Current Light]+[i]x[/i] and shard everything else. So, less orbs in your fireteams. Less efficient ability recharges, and less frequent super and rifts and barrier and grenade use. In short, the vets will complain that blueberries and casuals are even MORE useless under the new system. Cause they can't [i]afford[/i] to be more useful.

Ignorance is bungies specialty.

Came to these forums to ask if the previous dlc (Shadowkeep and Forsaken) come with Beyond Light but after seeing this thread I don't think I'm interested in coming back... yikes :S