How many people have beaten Riven legit? Less than a thousand? The fact that that question can even be proposed is a complete embarrassment and bungie should be nothing short of ashamed. Forsaken stands as one of the best periods in the history of destiny and a huge blemish that corrupts the entire thing is a cheese in the boss fight that allows players to beat the boss without experiencing any of the mechanics.
I was asked to help with a Riven kill. Excuse me, cheese. We're down below and one of the people who has no concept of the encounter jumps up into the window. "Guys, I seriously just discovered something! If you look through here all of these symbols appear around us! Holy shit, what did I just discover?!" I reply, "I'm done." and promptly leave the raid. The fault is not on the player base for taking the easy way out but lies at the feet of bungie for allowing this to exist within one of their crowing achievements for literally years.
You can add whatever excuses you'd like to try and mitigate what a disaster this boss cheese has been for years. The fact is that it's embarrassing to play a game that allows something like that to continue for this long. I play this game because of the friendships I've built since Vault. I play this game for loot (another huge issue, but not for this post). I play this game to be challenged. There is nothing challenging about destiny, and it's sad. Bungie is pathetic for making such weak content for a community that's largely incapable of rising to the challenge of hard content. Bungie and community members who have never beaten Riven legit, this awful game is your fault.
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Locking this thread. Play nice.
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Bearbeitet von frankiecroft852: 5/28/2020 8:57:56 PMpeople complain about it been too easy and they complain about it being to hard it's like the three bears all over again . bear 1 : it's too hard bear 2: it's too easy bear 3 : it's just right there's no pleasing people these days
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2 AntwortenI never beat riven legit. Why? Because it’s the exact same 1K odds, with extra steps.
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Game has always been easy since D1 release.
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1 AntwortenSo this is what cringe looks like... oof.
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14 AntwortenImagine being so elitist you throw a hissy fit and leave a raid mid encounter because someone stumbled upon a Riven mechanic. Want a challenge, make yourself useful and help people do Flawless Heroic Seraph Tower completions for the Title. Or don’t, and keep whining about a year old raid on a forum.
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23 AntwortenBearbeitet von ErieRider: 5/28/2020 12:01:33 PMCry me a river. Just because we don't want to sit hours upon hours in an encounter because we know we can just clip rivens nails with swords before she just kills us all doesn't make us bad or the game too easy. We got to her didn't we? So why tf should we waste even MORE time on it.
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13 AntwortenDude, go have a drink or something, you seem really tense over some nonsense.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Nox Lumina: 5/28/2020 11:23:05 AM-blam!- me, there's another one. I thought I was alone all this time. 100% agree. It was always funny to hear people with double or triple of my own Last Wish completions say something along the lines of 'Oh I don't know how to do this fight'.
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1 AntwortenI always -blam!-ing hate it when people cheese in a raid
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1 AntwortenWho would want to spend over an hour learning how to do the riven properly when you can get it done in 10 minutes?
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1 AntwortenThe problem isn’t difficulty, it’s glitches
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6 AntwortenNobody raids legitimately because nobody wants the never ending increase of ridiculous mechanics. Riven is long and boring. Almost every raid in d2 has 1 or more encounters people despise due to how mundane and tedious they are. This is the fault of the overhyped world first race. They cant figure out how to add legitimate difficulty to a game without nerfs or sponge bosses with immune phases surrounded by ever increasing layers of preposterous tasks. All to prolong the first time someone beats it. Look at Doom. Simplistic. As difficult as you want to attempt. Replayable. FUN. No convoluted and unnecessary mechanics. What Destiny is, is poor design by bad management who measures lack of player engagement as success.
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6 AntwortenSounds more like a YOU problem.
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4 AntwortenLast time a twink complained about that lunafaction got nerfed to death. Now game is too hard right? I mean raiding is so much changed. Instead of sitting in well keep shooting I am now sitting in well and hold reload to get honed edge on izinagi. Wow the immersion. Raiding is so much better now thank you twink.
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Hot cheese.
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3 AntwortenThere’s a difference between “challenging” and “I’m a game designer and I want to show you how smart I am by coming up with the most tedious and hair-pulling encounters imaginable”. That’s what the Riven encounter was. Tedious, unenjoyable bullshit. If it was actually fun, players would do it legit. Instead it was so frustratingly annoying that players [i]gladly[/i] cheesed it just to get it over with. That is NOT good game design. If this game is so easy go play Dark Souls. If you want a tedious BS challenge, go run some master nightfalls solo or something, take a video and show us how awesome you are. I’ll even applaud you... right after I’m done cheesing Riven.
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maybe if the game had ingame tutorials and explanations texts etc. , maybe the players would understand it better :D
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4 AntwortenI have no idea what the F you are talking about. Riven's mechanism: there are 2 rooms. 3 ppl to do damage and 3 ppl to extend time before Riven wipe happens. Thus, by definition, "riven cheese" is a legit way to deal with riven. To kill her before she wipes you. AKA, to juice enough damage before the wipe.
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5 AntwortenGame is difficult enough. Plenty of daily players left already cause some endgame is already to difficult to be fun.
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2 AntwortenYeah this game definitely would benefit for some more difficult activities. The adjustable difficulty nightfalls (with reward scaling up along side it) are definitely a step in the right direction, but similar options for things like raids and dungeons would be cool.
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1 AntwortenLooks like I better start grinding out 1k before they suddenly patch it because someone complained.
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2 Antwortenthis game is for who loves it regardless of the content. True Love in unconditional
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24 AntwortenLol what? Sorry not everyone is the top 1% elite but some people dont have the time or skill to sit through 30 minutes of mechanics that they have to restart if someone slips up.