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4/18/2020 4:20:44 AM
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Revoker and it's free shots? Sure, be mad at that, but spawning with two shots in a sniper isnt the most broken thing in the game...
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  • Revoker is also crazy and simply shouldn’t be able to give ammo back in crucible. Spawning with ammo is just simply a horrible idea. I can simply get a headshot and have my teammate die then pick up 3 more shots for free then get another 2 kills even miss a shot then get more special Ammo from pick ups. It shouldn’t be allowed, just add special drops like heavy pre shadow keep

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  • Using a sniper, chances are you're far away from the actual fighting so repeatedly picking up special crates from fallen teammates isnt that common. The special ammo drops are moreso fine. I agree that the special ammo finder shouldn't be a thing as it encourages straight special usage, rather than a mix of everything.

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  • Normally i would agree in other shooters that if your using a sniper the chances are you are going to be too far away to pick up ammo at an effective rate, such as halo. But Destiny it’s just not the case, even sniping at close range is extremely easy thanks to aim assist. I think making it where only one person on each team in a 6v6 or 3v3 having like 10ish rounds from a special drop pickup, then when dying not dropping any special ammo would help the game so much.

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  • I dont think halo is a fair comparison simply because it's a classic arena type shooter. Everyone has the same weapons and snipers and other like power weapons have limited ammo, and set spawn times to influence how a map and game play out. Destiny, everyone can have everything, so the power imbalance isnt so much toward the weapon as it is the ammo. I think everyone starting off with two is fine, but hoarding it by using the gun efficiently and collecting ammo from the dead, especially as a sniper just doesnt make sense to me. If you're moving about the map and quick scoping people, chances are you'd be doing well regardless, and if you're far off sniping as the gun intends, then after 3 kills, the other team [i]should[/i] know to avoid that lane, or flank you if they're salty.

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  • Well my issue with that is just simply isn’t a counter to that other then to use another sniper. Yes everyone can use it but that doesn’t mean it’s balanced. “If everyone has a nuke then the game is balanced” just isn’t true. For example when I play Trials I don’t use any special weapon or any armor exotic because I firmly believe these things ruin the gameplay and mode. Snipers not spawning with ammo means you have to do a lot within the match itself to be able to even have access to the weapons ammo, which balances it out.

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  • You can never have "balance" in a fps unless everyone was literally using the same grenade, class, subclass, guns, and perks. That would be extremely boring, especially for a looter shooter, and scrubs would still find something to complain about for why they suck and are getting stomped in pvp. Tldr: There will never be "balance," git gud.

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  • Bearbeitet von Look Out! It's Deputy Dan!: 4/18/2020 7:55:17 PM
    Yeah that’s my point tho, I am good at the game feel more then free to look at guardian.gg, and I find it extremely boring because of special ammo. And yes In terms of PVE in a loot shooter it could be boring, but in PVP balance and skill should be at the top before anything else.

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  • [quote]Well my issue with that is just simply isn’t a counter to that other then to use another sniper. Yes everyone can use it but that doesn’t mean it’s balanced. “If everyone has a nuke then the game is balanced” just isn’t true. For example when I play Trials I don’t use any special weapon or any armor exotic because I firmly believe these things ruin the gameplay and mode. Snipers not spawning with ammo means you have to do a lot within the match itself to be able to even have access to the weapons ammo, which balances it out.[/quote] Comparing nukes to special ammo is a bit much. That's on you for not using exotics or special in trials, you're putting yourself at a severe disadvantage for what exactly? The moral high ground in a video game? I wont tell you what to do, but that's kind of dumb. The issue of having to work and earn your special ammo is that the chance at losing that hard work in less than a second just doesnt feel good if that's what you'd like to use. It also defeats the point of even making good special guns because they will see such little play that it almost feels like wasted design time

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  • Sorry for the late reply went to sleep right before your reply. My issue that I'm having with using specials is that it makes it so boring and makes most of the gunplay a complete waste. Using things like special weapons and exotic armor in trials (using that as an example from the previous topic) makes me fall asleep as such i do not use them, and i do understand that in terms of trials it really is all about just trying to win regardless at all counts but it shouldn't be about winning thru exploitation, i mean if thats truly how they want the pvp to be then literally dont even allow me to enter trials/comp/control unless i have a special weapon and exotic armor equipped. I mean shit at that point they shouldnt even allow you to enter the que for PVP unless you are only using meta weapons. You see it as a waste of design for snipers/shotguns if they can't have a very large amount of play time, but i see the rest of the primaries, maps, and the sole purpose of PVP and trials as a waste of design time because of exploitation of special ammo.

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  • I think the problems not with the sniper rifles or ammo itself it's with the way they are able to be used. And honestly it's pretty much in every shooter game. You shouldn't be able to quick scope with a sniper rifle. At all. And if you can't fit that into the game as it is then either change the game so that they can be used or don't have them. Sniper rifles are powerful weapons and they should be too but look at how they work in real life and the drawbacks they have, real life snipers shoot from a stable position, far away using accuracy, range and stealth. They do not run around whilst shooting people in the face from 3 meters away. Cod and some other shooters have given people the notion that skilled sniper shots should be rapidly performed whilst at close range etc. Literally the opposite of what makes a skilled sniper

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