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Bearbeitet von Lucifer:
3/10/2020 10:46:48 AM
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Lately it seems like Smith might have always the problem, not Activision.
Luke Smith's "weapon shelf life" idea is lazy. Telling players that they can choose how they want to play while telling them that the weapons they've grinded countless hours for will soon be obsolete. WHAT?! What's the point of grinding for things like recluse or NF? Why buy any weapon ornaments for weapons that won't be any good in high level content? & why would you give weapons a shelf life towards the end of destiny 2? Will destiny 2 even be a thing in 15 months? This proposal is just lazy on the developers part. They want to keep giving us re-skinned weapons and armor? Cool. But telling people to "play how they want" then forcing them to use new weapons just because the developers can't come up with any creative ideas. Something as simple as putting the anti barrier/ overload / unstoppable rounds as perks for next season's weapons would give people an incentive to use those weapons without making them overpowered. I will end my rant by saying that Luke Smith should step down. His weak ideas will run destiny 2 to the ground.
EDIT: I am NOT saying Luke Smith should be fired. The man has done great work AS A WRITER. However, Bungie can do better for their player base. The player base deserves better considering the amount of money and time invested in this game.
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/255453260/0/0 Bump this thread, we need everyone speaking up
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4 AntwortenBearbeitet von Hydrilus: 3/12/2020 5:15:38 PMBungie's main issue (in my opinion) has always been upper management. Upper management is the reason why the game has always been the way it has been for so many years - recycling content, focus on eververse, and seemingly repeating the same mistakes over and over again. I say "seemingly" because I don't believe these are all legitimate mistakes, but rather calculated, strategic choices by those high up the chain of command to make specific changes that will allow them to milk as much money as possible out of the community while doing the least amount of work. Luke isn't one of those people I don't think. He's a "Community Manager" right? So, I don't think he has much, if anything to do with actual game development and design decisions. He probably spends most of his day reading Reddit, Bungie forums, replying to people on those platforms, writing/responding to emails, compiling spreadsheets of feedback from the community to blast off to others, and walking to/from his desk to get answers from co-workers on stuff the community asks about. With that said, I don't think he should be fired. He simply is not the one responsible. He's the messenger, not the source. However, while he may not be directly responsible, he is complicit in everything that's been going on. He sees it all, hears it all, and knowing what he knows, spews a bunch of BS out to the community every day, and every week. He puts on a smile for the ViDocs, and willingly hypes everyone up for Seasons and DLC he knows are half-assed and will be disappointing. So no, he is not responsible, and he shouldn't be fired, but, morally, he should feel like an asshole working for Bungie, and should consider leaving for a company with management that doesn't condone these bs practicies. Just my opinion. Edit: I've been informed Luke is not in fact the Community Manager but the Game/Creative Director - I suppose I was thinking of Deej or Dmg...whoever holds that CM title. So, I take it back that we can't blame Luke...we CAN, and, he should still step down.
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Bearbeitet von Cinderchar: 3/10/2020 1:48:35 PMLuke talks in a way that looks scripted which is why I have a hard time believing anything he says is actually coming from him. He tries to show passion when he talks, but to me it just looks really fake and staged. I dunno. Bungie is too good at making hype to believe anything is more than just that. Something tells me even if Luke wasn't there the game would still be in the same spot.
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2 AntwortenWhat? He did great writing? When? Seriously Destiny story is half assed beyond realistic levels. It’s up there with Marvel power scaling issues bad. Not quite Toryama bad though. You can not only see plot holes in each DLC easily but they leave so much on the table. At best it’s narrative benefit written not graphic novel good. I’d rate it with new star wars plot hole convince explained after they see the holes.
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119 Antworten[quote]Luke Smith's "weapon shelf life" idea is lazy[/quote] No. Its how EVERY loot-based game that has been created in the last 25 YEARS handles in-game power. Bungie just thought that this basic rule of game design didn't apply to their game, and has finally accepted that it does....and only managed to make this day more difficult now that it inevitably has come. Smith isn't a "problem". He is someone who has an intuitive understanding of game design, and a better understanding of this game and its community than anyone else at Bungie. He is consistently makign the decisions necessary to make Destiny a healthy, sustainable loot-based RPG. Rather than a game that will self-destruct and lapse into an unplayable state. Which is what this game will do in 12-24 months if Bungie DOESN"T do this. What weapon retirement will do is vastly increase the likelihood that you will get to enjoy a weapon in its unbroken state. Right now there is no way to REMOVE a problem weapon from the game in any reliable manner. So what Bungie has been doing has been BREAKING weapons with nerfs, as a means to get them out of our hands. I'd rather have the intact weapon, that I can use in other parts of the game....than a BROKEN weapon that has been nerfed into the ground (like LMGs) that aren't really usable ANYWHERE>
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5 AntwortenLuke Smith should be fired and then sued. I can honestly say that since he makes a ridiculous amount of money and has done such a horrible job he absolutely deserves the same number of years homeless on the street. Then maybe he would appreciate anyone willing to support him ever again. Right now he is clearly a horrible human being doing nothing but watching his bank account grow while he is as lazy as possible.
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https://twvideo01.ubm-us.net/o1/vault/gdc2018/presentations/FANE_LINDA_EPIC_SYNC.pdf Or maybe the problem is that Bungie’s game development structure is so decentralized that it leads to endless experimentation and faulty quality oversight.
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3 AntwortenThis is a game, NOT a way of life.
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2 AntwortenO Said that and Bungie erase my Post.
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1 AntwortenHe’s always been the issue! He needs to go! Every idea he has ever had has been shit
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2 Antworten[quote]Luke Smith's "weapon shelf life" idea is lazy. Telling players that they can choose how they want to play while telling them that the weapons they've grinded countless hours for will soon be obsolete. WHAT?! What's the point of grinding for things like recluse or NF? Why buy any weapon ornaments for weapons that won't be any good in high level content? & why would you give weapons a shelf life towards the end of destiny 2? Will destiny 2 even be a thing in 15 months? This proposal is just lazy on the developers part. They want to keep giving us re-skinned weapons and armor? Cool. But telling people to "play how they want" then forcing them to use new weapons just because the developers can't come up with any creative ideas. Something as simple as putting the anti barrier/ overload / unstoppable rounds as perks for next season's weapons would give people an incentive to use those weapons without making them overpowered. I will end my rant by saying that Luke Smith should step down. His weak ideas will run destiny 2 to the ground. EDIT: I am NOT saying Luke Smith should be fired. The man has done great work AS A WRITER. However, Bungie can do better for their player base. The player base deserves better considering the amount of money and time invested in this game.[/quote] Luke Smith's fine! 😉 So, nerf fusion rifles? Nothing more to see here! Oh, in B4 thread Locked!
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1 AntwortenSmith might have always BEEN the problem? Indeed. Someone thought his ideas were better than Joe Staten and they were wrong... SO WRONG!
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1 AntwortenTen dollars for the season content isn’t that much, but you can you can also get a fairly decent 6-pack of beer for ten dollars too. The beer is a much better bargain when considering what you’re getting for your money with D2. No reason to just throw money away. This is the first season that I’ve passed on.
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8 AntwortenThankfully, you edited your message. I got banned for saying he should.
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1 AntwortenThis game was 10000x better with VV helping out. The split with Activision is what got us in this mess, and only a large company such as Microsoft will get us out of it. Which will never happen.
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Prince Ice Blaze Winters: 3/10/2020 9:17:41 PMi've been saying since taken king that everything is smith's fault when he deleted our elemental primaries.
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1 Antwortenyou're right you know... seasons are getting worse, this new horde mood is awful, weapon retirement is piss poor, these new bunkers are convoluted as hell... honestly this is getting bad fast. Luke is not a franchise runner and they are spiraling out of control
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2 AntwortenYou had my respect when you started fire Luke Smith then at the end your retract that statement. Mate say it as it is the man should be strung up, he and his team have single handly killed Destiny.
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2 AntwortenLuke Smith should be fired, period. He's not worthy of cleaning the toilets. Remember when they demoted his dumb ass and the next 2 dlc's came out and were good, then they promoted him again and everything has been shit. That's his career. He's completely incompetent in any kind of mgmt position and Bungie would definitely do best to get rid of him altogether. He was heavily involved in VOG, got promoted, and then D1 turned into a shitshow from that point on. If he was still writing and being honest about it, he'd be blasting himself for the incompetent twit that he is in his position.
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1 AntwortenLuuk! Wat r u doin LUUK!! STAHP!!
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1 AntwortenActivision fired the talent. You are left with Incompetent Smith.
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2 AntwortenHes not gonna be fired nor will he step down. The fact is they all make bank. And as long as they make bank, he's got a job. If you all dont like the product, dont play it. Dont buy ever-worse. Dont buy seasons. Dont be like this guy and buy the annual pass (I for sure regret it).
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3 AntwortenIt’s because they got Datto on speed dial. If they stop listening to Datto then perhaps there wouldn’t be so many issues. I’m a hundred percent serious here. Blame Bungie for listening to Datto. Blame Datto for being less knowledgeable about the entire community as opposed to the top one percent.
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1 AntwortenBungie's vision for destiny is very bi-polar Bungie is on cruise control to there next project. Destiny is just a passive money maker they have a skeleton crew manning until there next big game comes out.
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7 AntwortenLmao, watch out, NJWs will delete your post and your family if you speak down upon the holy lard, Luke Smith.
