[quote]I see a lot of misguided souls who think that weapon retirement means Bungie can create better and more awesome weapons. NONE OF THAT IS HAPPENING. What is really happening is Bungie is taking your weapon and putting it in another part of the game, changing he skin and making you regrind it. Nothing less nothing more. It will not improve the game is the slightest and just force you to grind for your god roll in 9 months all over again. No benefit to the player what so ever.[/quote] This is what I’m afraid of. Them takin our guns away, giving us horrible new stuff, then reselling our old stuff back. If that happens I’m gone.

Kinda I guess since I’m exited for tommy gun alike gun

The dir cut was the warm up telling us they’re going to take a giant shit on their customers. Yes we are customers. The next cut will tell us when they’re going to deuce on us. My thoughts is that I’ve players close to 3000 hrs of d2. And several hundred dollars on game and expansions. Once I know the Cleveland steam roller is getting dropped. I’m out. These shisters aren’t going to do anything until October. They way all the tendies from new annual pass sales before the drop the news.

This game is trash

Don’t forget the cool new ornaments we’ll be able to purchase for our “new” guns that veteran players will be asked to regrind for! This direct cut sums up that they don’t give a shit about the player base that has supported and religiously played this game. I have to pay taxes but I don’t have to pay to play this game anymore.

Can't wait to see the Recluse painted blue & orange with a vanguard logo slapped on for good measure. Or Not Forgotten returning as "The Forgotten" as a pinnacle reward from Banshee, where you gotta do tasks in Gambit, Crucible and Strikes because Banshee forgot who wanted him to upgrade this gun. Actually no i like this one because i'd want unlocking the gun to give dialogue to the vendors (Drifter can barely control his laughter seeing all 3 activity logos in a row on one hand cannon, then hands you a Gambit ornament for it.)

Kind of off topic-ish but most MMOs do this, hence why alot of them started to implement appearance changers to allow people to use weapon and armor design they miss. But the biggest difference is that many MMOs, lets say fantasy like WoW and FXIV, the weapons and armor often augment the characters abilities. Alot of these games focus on character ability rotation while also working with other classes. Hell even Borderlands does this, since that game is much closer to diablo in terms of game design. Destiny, as it is currently now, is a shooter first, and abilities come secondary. Feels much more like a CoD with RPG elements (dont come bashing saying this game is not like CoD, you get the point...). Hence, weapons are the forefront in terms of character output. Because of this design choice I don’t think we will ever avoid these kind of things happening. But games like BL and WF have very similar character ganeplay in terms of 2-3 abilities and a gun. Then why is Destiny so limited in terms of variety and have to worry about power creep? Besides the fundamental game design, it really comes down to the fact it heavily focuses on the PvP experience. Destiny probably has the most robust pvp (saying robust only comparing with warframe and BL) of all the above mentioned games. And as long as that exists, we will always see pve becoming limited by severe game balancing. I think the overall pacing of destiny is fine too in the MAIN game. But outside of pursuing guns, this game has nothing else. No incentive to explore, accessories that make your character cool, player housing, ship battles etc. all of which warframe has. Again, since this is the internet, i know people will come defending the warframe thing but I actually dont play that game much if at all. When I did play 2 years ago, I did notice they did many things correct in this sense. That game also chases guns, but has so much things outside of that. Destiny CAN do this as well, but I think it is severely limited by the game design and even the game engine too. I cannot help but think (since I am positive), if Bungie had a more robust engine they would make a super amazing Destiny.

Yeah, that's why I initially hated the idea. Every season seems to roll out more interesting perks and/or combos, but also each season rolls out a bunch of nerfs so we can never see those perks perform well.

This isn't a gameplay issue. It's a "writers block" issue from the dev's. That's all.

I'm not confused and I don't care, I have a bunch of god rolled guns and my vault is very well protected. I looked at my vault and don't use 97% of what's in there. I have no problem grinding for a bunch of new weapons to sit in my vault.

Ultimately, don't enemies still scale with our level? So if I'm level 1000 and using a retired weapon that brings me down to 950, will it make much of a difference, outside of pinnacle activities I mean hell, I still like brushing the dust off Colony once in a while so I can be a dick in Gambit. Yeah, I'm THAT GUY.