It's going to be everywhere, and all from a good majority of people who didn't even participate in solving the puzzle. It was supposed to be a community event... Did you guys want another Niobe labs? Look at it from a development standpoint, think about how hard it is to design a puzzle that could involve a large community and be challenging, but not overwhelmingly so. If you think you people can do better, then prove it. Get on the dev team or start your own game up. Don't piss and moan about it, be a part of the solution not the problem. Feedback is fine, opinions are fine, but throwing fits because you looked at the spoilers that were datamined makes it YOUR fault that the 'secret' puzzle and 'secret' prize were not a secret. Yes, there are things that were not perfect...so what? Not anything IS perfect. It's hard to make everyone happy. Throwing your toys out in the pram does not help the dev team do better in the future. Keep it civil and be adults, give honest feedback, sans the rose tinted glasses. [spoiler]Now, whether or not the dev team actually listens is another story, but I digress. At lest it wasn't a quest that included mandatory crucible and the strike was matchmade, that was quite nice.[/spoiler]
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1 AntwortenIt’s “throwing your toys OUT of the pram” not in. Just wanted to point that out.
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2 AntwortenSome of you are missing the point, people are disappointed in the bait and switch Bungie pulled on us. Think about it, the Bastion is on the roadmap for later in the month, then here comes this exiting new puzzle that got everyone hyped that this could lead to a new secret exotic. Look at the tomb at the end, there is a D1 exotic sword on top, and Saint 14 said it was our favorite weapon but was shattered, shattered sounds like sword to me. I would never think shattered meant broken or disabled gun, ever. Another missed opportunity Bungie, just like the Vex Offensive and Undying Mind. Swing and a miss. Having a secret puzzle that rewards the exotic we were already promised doesn't make any sense. My 2 cents
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1 AntwortenIf only these devs didn’t spit on me with no mm, pvp exclusives, universal ornaments, FOMO, blind nerfs etc I wouldn’t be mind to think about how hard it is to make puzzle... for... was it for me? I don’t need puzzle! I never expected puzzle from FPS! I played a few on mobile and if I will want some more in a future I will buy a puzzle game. But ya know I bought FPS to be shooting monsters and here is “community event” with puzzle. Who need that puzzle? I would like to get some universal ornament as a rare drop from the world but puzzle? Really? Oh! Maybe Datto or Gladd wanted!? Lets go ask them what they think.
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Sentence structure is your friend.
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1 AntwortenI guess I shouldn’t have read Bungie’s roadmap either showing us the weapon. Most people aren’t complaining about the puzzle. I’d say most of them liked it just fine and appreciated the community effort. The problem was Bungie and the roadmap
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9 AntwortenWhy do they create puzzles in the first place? I would buy puzzle games if that's what I wanted to do.
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I think the puzzle was great, you could be involved as much or as little as you wanted. My only critique would be that they shouldn’t have shown the reward in the season pass. If it was going to be Bastion then don’t show it off.
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Complaining vs. criticism towards something people love and want to be better. People in here need to learn the difference. Players are disappointed bc it was a huge mysterious lead up to a mysterious reward. Only to find out it was something we were already going to get. There was nothing secretive about it. Just getting bungled again.
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5 AntwortenBearbeitet von Swiftlock: 1/22/2020 3:08:13 AMNah. It's totally okay for people to get very frustrated and disappointed with the end result. Bungie has proven that they're capable of doing fun secret quests with satisfying conclusions that bring the community together. You can't please everyone, but that doesn't change the fact that CoT was a missed opportunity through and through.
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Bonus cookies for using sans in a sentence.
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[url]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forums/Post/254954770?page=0&sort=0&showBanned=0&path=1[/url] How i feel about these forums as well. Not everything is mindblowing but there is still loads of fun to be had in D2 with more coming.
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2 AntwortenThe end result of a community wide puzzle event should not be simply getting a quest a week before it would have been widely available anyway.
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4 AntwortenA fair complaint is that there was nothing built into the game to make it a community event or setup by Bungie for the community to participate. You had have access to various third party discords, try to submit to streamers or reddit, no notice or feedback of what you are doing is helpful. Streamers had their personal team doing things, and a lot at once, a lot of people let like it was useless for them to try since it would get lost in with everything else. If Bungie had it all somehow either built into the game or the forums or *something* where you could see what you were doing mattered it wouldn’t have turned off the large majority of the community. As it was, it wasn’t a community effort, but more like a highschool clique effort that made a lot of people either feel excluded or what they could offer was meaningless. I’ve read from some new sites saying that’s where the puzzles failed. Everything had to be outsourced and there where those *helping* that were outright holding back on parts of the puzzle to be the first to solve it. That seems to be the main failure. Bungie not setting up a way to run, control and put the effort in to setup up a method for the community to do it in game or with the app or website. Bungie expecting the community to put in all the effort when they put in none to help the community be able to. If it was built into the game or app/website where you go a code each time you ran through, submitted it however they established how in their game/app/website and the map stilled it bit by bit and you can see it happening and if you piece helped right away; plus got say exp, rewards, emotes, ornaments unique and only available to the puzzle and while it was unsolved and then they would be gone? I doubt most people would complain. It could have been a “You had to be there” moment but it really did fall short. Especially when it’s on the roadmap a week later anyways if it doesn’t happen. Not going to miss out on anything. As a Puzzle, 10/10 As it was implemented and as a community event 1/10
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3 AntwortenYou ever thought a movie was bad? Did you take part in the making of said movie? Because by your logic you're not allowed an opinion.
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5 AntwortenBastion was advertised as part of Season Pass, the only thing mined were the quest steps. Whisper and Outbreak were not advertised, entirely secret and true surprises. Regardless of whether effort was put in or not by a player they can evaluate the worth of another’s time and therefore feel a sense of injustice at the absolute disregard that has befell them. Any unknown exotic would have made more sense but effectively awarding ‘1 week early access’ is pretty poor - and there really isn’t any defending of that.
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12 Antwortenmeh, some ppl call “[b]complaining[/b]” feedback, albeit negative feedback..., but feedback nonetheless.
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1 AntwortenI'm with this guy quit -blam!- its really getting annoying and unnecessary seriously don't like what you're playing don't play at all dam crybabies
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[quote]Did you guys want another Niobe labs? Look at it from a development standpoint, think about how hard it is to design a puzzle that could involve a large community and be challenging, but not overwhelmingly so.[/quote] Oh shit. Someone let a grown up in here. Sir, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to leave..... [i]Security!![/i]
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1 AntwortenProbably one of the smartest post on the subject. MJ approves👍