[u]Check the Mercury forge weapons:[/u]
[b]Garden Progeny 1[/b]
[i]"Two siblings cleaved by time and space, reflections never found alone,
The ending of the eldritch race a - path long seen but never known."[/i]
The premise of Destiny. The light and darkness are the siblings and reflections of each other that
will never go without the other. And something of an eldritch race that either are the pyramid-ship people or the ones who created the traveller and the pyramids.
[b]The Conqueror 2[/b]
[i]"To Tower comes a war in red, an orphan sounds the empire's call.
Mortal angels mourn the dead while lightless light wraps night in pall."[/i]
The events of the Red War. Ghaul being the titular conqueror and the orphan.
Mortal angels being the now lightless guardians mourning their losses.
[b]Jack Queen King 3[/b]
[i]"An army meets, and stands, and falls. Three nobles wage their hopeless war.
In shifting madness, evil crawls. One stands above the battle's roar."[/i]
Most likely the events of Forsaken and its three following seasons.
Jack - The Drifter
Queen - Mara Sov
King - Calus
[b]Machina Dei 4[/b]
[i]"A charnel but effulgent orb - beacon in a loathsome dark -
Fêted, fetid corpses rise - a too-long-absent gibbous spark."
[/i]
This is where we are right now. The orb we recived in the pyramid and the nightmares, return of the dead are described here.
From here on, it's all new and the big events will occur:
[b]Traveller's Judgement 5[/b]
[i]"A visitor ignites the sky, and in the truth of light it dreams:
Above the dead and yet-to-die, a legion's blade with fire screams."[/i]
[b]Sol Pariah 6[/b]
[i]"Amid the endless death one flew - unnatural all-consuming need-
And in the space between the two, accursed comprehension freed."[/i]
Either Osiris or our guardian making it out of a big slaughter between the Traveller and darkness,
coming to the realization of it all.
[b]West of Sunfall 7[/b]
[i]"A spark of knowledge with each fall, the purpose of the endless youth,
No longer shunned, dark's nameless call now brings about a tenebrous truth."[/i]
This is the point where the big reveal will happen. "The purpose of the endless youth" meaning why guardians, immortal ones, were made and what the traveller had intended. And it's probably not nice because the reveal of the truth, as said, will make us no longer shun the darkness but instead bring us tenebrous truth. Truth in the shadow between light and dark.
[b]Infinite Paths 8[/b]
[i]"They sowed the first, now reap the Last; forever narrows to a line
Where Light will fade into the past - when all's converted, nothing shines."[/i]
[b]Null Calamity 9[/b]
[i]"A sacred eye that speaks in lies - unending futures in its path.
The way before us to the skies shall see itself in ancient wrath."[/i]
[b]Future Safe 10[/b]
[i]"See who's robed as if a god, who stands with pride above the rest!
Destroy the nameless ancient fraud! Destroy the one whose death was blessed!"[/i]
VERY ambiguous if you ask me. But sounds like the one who stands with pride above the rest could be Rasputin ("I have no equal") and he will be the one to finally destroy the Traveller (The ancient fraud) or potentially the traveller AND the darkness, ending the conflict and making the [i]future safe.[/i]
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Until any story is actually finalized and published changes and alterations may happen at any moment. But this should be a more or less accurate guideline of what to expect.
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4 AntwortenThe one whose death was blessed could mean Saint-14. He literally killed so many Vex when stuck in the infinite forest that when he finally fell, the vex created a shrine to him. That's my best guess at least.
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3 AntwortenSounds like a fake employee profile trying to up the sauce. But there’s no pasta on the plate!
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They make it sound vague on purpose so whatever happens next can be interpreted to fit into it. It’s shitty chick writing that is full of plot holes and retcons, such as what happened with the crucible and FWC history incidents. Don’t read too much into it. Luke Smith himself said that the stranger’s non-story was ‘complete’ my just because she gave you a ‘sweet gun,’ which wasn’t even ‘sweet,’ as an example.
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2 AntwortenThe problem with Osiris’s prophecies is that with each new event they can be twisted to describe said event. They have multiple interpretations, making it very hard to understand what they actually refer to.
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4 AntwortenWhat kind of rock have you been under?
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I’m glad you shared this. Thank you. Some cool ideas and interpretations here.
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2 AntwortenMost of that is correct but I’m pretty sure that Jack King Queen 3 is actually a reference to the sword logic and/or the Hive God Siblings(Oryx, Savathûn, Xivu Arath) Best reference for this is in one of Toland’s journals in the Grimoire Ghost Fragment: Darkness 3. Goes as follows... “I drive myself to the edge of madness trying to explain the truth. It's so simple. Elegant like a knife point. It explains - this is not hyperbole, this is the farthest thing from exaggeration - EVERYTHING. But you lay it out and they stare at you like you've just been exhaling dust. Maybe they're missing some underlying scaffold of truth. Maybe they are all propped on a bed of lies that must be burned away. Why does anything exist? No no no no no don't reach for that word. There's no 'reason'. That's teleology and teleology will stitch your eyelids shut. Why do we have atoms? Because atomic matter is more stable than the primordial broth. Atoms defeated the broth. That was the first war. There were two ways to be and one of them won. And everything that came next was made of atoms. Atoms made stars. Stars made galaxies. Worlds simmered down to rock and acid and in those smoking primal seas the first living molecule learned to copy itself. All of this happened by the one law, the blind law, which exists without mind or meaning. It's the simplest law but it has no worshippers here (out there, though, out there - !) HOW DO I EXPLAIN IT it's so simple WHY DON'T YOU SEE Imagine three great nations under three great queens. The first queen writes a great book of law and her rule is just. The second queen builds a high tower and her people climb it to see the stars. The third queen raises an army and conquers everything. The future belongs to one of these queens. Her rule is harshest and her people are unhappy. But she rules. This explains everything, understand? This is why the universe is the way it is, and not some other way. Existence is a game that everything plays, and some strategies are winners: the ability to exist, to shape existence, to remake it so that your descendants - molecules or stars or people or ideas - will flourish, and others will find no ground to grow. And as the universe ticks on towards the close, the great players will face each other. In the next round there will be three queens and all of them will have armies, and now it will be a battle of swords - until one discovers the cannon, or the plague, or the killing word. Everything is becoming more ruthless and in the end only the most ruthless will remain (LOOK UP AT THE SKY) and they will hunt the territories of the night and extinguish the first glint of competition before it can even understand what it faces or why it has transgressed. This is the shape of victory: to rule the universe so absolutely that nothing will ever exist except by your consent. This is the queen at the end of time, whose sovereignty is eternal because no other sovereign can defeat it. And there is no reason for it, no more than there was reason for the victory of the atom. It is simply the winning play. Of course, it might be that there was another country, with other queens, and in this country they sat down together and made one law and one tower and one army to guard their borders. This is the dream of small minds: a gentle place ringed in spears. But I do not think those spears will hold against the queen of the country of armies. And that is all that will matter in the end.”
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7 AntwortenIf the Traveller turns out to be bad, and we've done all this shit for nothing, that's gonna be really -blam!-ing stupid.
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2 Antworten:< ̄`ヽ、 / ̄> ゝ、 \ /⌒ヽ,ノ /´ ゝ、 `( ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) / > ,ノ ∠_,,,/´”
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1 AntwortenIt will be way better in D2, no more grimoire cards. Instead we get snippets of "lore" ( Still in the same fking short format ) that anyone can interpret however they like, that'll make a good story.
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Bearbeitet von AlieN_x_HuMaN: 10/18/2019 3:29:38 PMSole Pariah 6 is referencing Toland West of Sunfall lore goes much deeper than that - west of sunfall is whatever is west of the sun on mercury so figure that out.. Null Calamity is just referencing the Vex' plan for everything to be null = a pattern = synergy Robed figure is the next big baddy. Such as the statue at the end of the raid was robed..
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Bearbeitet von corky125_: 10/18/2019 4:48:06 PMI think 5 is referencing Ghaul during the Red War final mission, "Chosen" "A visitor ignites the sky" When Gary is like "I AM GHAUUULLLLL" and does some Stormcaller stuff "and in the truth of light it dreams" Ghaul dreaming of having the light, his main goal "Above the dead and yet-to-die" The invaded and damaged city below the ship "a legion's blade with fire screams" When he turned into a dawnblade and was launching flaming swords at us
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Bearbeitet von heat5360: 10/18/2019 4:17:11 PMpretty sure end of year 3 is end of new story , after that will be d3. then its a new generation, " teen gaurdians go"!
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2 AntwortenCalus for 10 ;)
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You forgot the Perfect Paradox shotgun.
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You’re just now realizing this...?
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Gibbous: of the moon
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Awesome. Thanks for putting this together!
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"The one whose death was blessed" sounds like the guardian. Our death and eventual resurrection was a blessing to our allies.
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Bearbeitet von Squirrels, Kell of Acorns: 10/17/2019 9:31:20 PMCould Future Safe 10 be referring to Guardians themselves? Once the Traveller and the Pyramids have had their closing dance to the story that would leave Guardians as a terribly dangerous force in the universe. During the time of the Warlords the future Guardians were no force for good but would-be deities reigning over all creation. We are nameless as we are just called Guardian and NPCs all have names and our deaths were blessed with immortality via the Light/Ghosts. The final act to make all of future safe would be to destroy the very ones that would possess the power to destroy or save all but likely destroy everything as the Guardians battle for their universe view; much like the Traveller and Pyramids have been for a long time. Also I think Machina Dei 4 is about Eris and her rock.
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12 AntwortenI don't take anything from curse of Osiris seriously. I try and forget that expansion and it's lore never existed
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Offstar: 10/18/2019 12:32:38 AM[b]Traveller's Judgement 5[/b] [i]"A visitor ignites the sky, and in the truth of light it dreams: Above the dead and yet-to-die, a legion's blade with fire screams."[/i] Since the 4th weapon lines up with Shadowkeep/Season of the Undying this one should line up with the next season. And from what we know the next season is the Season of the Dawn where our goal is to fix the timeline. Ikora is building a portal that will let us get to the Undying Mind in the Tower. Killing the Undying Mind most likely is the cause of the damage to the timeline, or because of it's absence the timeline is damaged. This text fits Ghaul and the Red War Ghaul was a visitor who ignited the sky and dreamt of the truth and power of the light. His fleet flew above the dead(Guardians? or actual dead people) and yet-to-die(non-Guardians or living Guardians). And his troops were a legion and Cabal deal heavily with fire. So if this text lines up with Season of the Dawn where the timeline is damaged... Ghaul might be brought back... we might enter a timeline where Ghaul wasn't defeated. [b]Infinite Paths 8[/b] [i]"They sowed the first, now reap the Last; forever narrows to a line Where Light will fade into the past - when all's converted, nothing shines."[/i] This one is tricky but... I think it references the Hive and Savathun. My reason for this is "they sowed the first" there aren't many things I can think of that can fit this other than the Taken. The Hive specifically Oryx sowed the first Taken. And the last taken are being sowed by Savathun and Quria "now reap the Last" the last of the Taken are being made by them. "forever narrows to a line" could reference how long Savathun's been built up and the build up must come to an end. "Where Light will fade into the past - when all's converted, nothing shines" when something is made Taken it's converted and if everything becomes converted nothing will shine with the light so Light becomes something of the past. [b]Null Calamity 9[/b] [i]"A sacred eye that speaks in lies - unending futures in its path. The way before us to the skies shall see itself in ancient wrath."[/i] This one is hard to decipher but could have 3 meanings. A sacred eye could reference the Eye of Osiris, the Vex possibly Quria specifically, or our Ghosts. The Drifter hates ghosts and has a lot of stuff to say against them. If it turns out he was right then our ghosts a sacred eye (of the traveler) have lied to us. Ghosts are immortal from what we know unless killed so they have an unending future. Though since Quria is a Vex Axis Mind it should have 1 eye (sacred eye) and as Vex there are a number of unending futures before it. For the most part this one is hard to figure out because it's vague. [b]Future Safe 10[/b] [i]"See who's robed as if a god, who stands with pride above the rest! Destroy the nameless ancient fraud! Destroy the one whose death was blessed!"[/i] I think there are 3 possibilities with this since the number of beings who appear or act like gods is limited: The first is to humanity the Traveler is like a god and it literally stands above humanity. The traveler has no name other than the one we gave it. And Guardians have their death blessed. This might mean that the traveler is revealed to be a fraud perhaps it's actually evil or something. And the next line is declaring it a nameless ancient fraud that needs to be destroyed. And as for the one whose death was blessed... Could reference Guardians or after the truth of the Traveler is revealed it creates a champion who it blesses and we must destroy it. The second is it could reference Rasputin as the one that robes itself as a god since Rasputin seems filled with pride saying he has no equal and acts like the god or protector of humanity and our system. In the Golden Age Rasputin planned to attack the traveler with the entirety of his warsat network in order to cripple the Traveler if it tried to leave the system. It is possible that through future seasons it's slowly revealed that the Traveler isn't as good as people think. And after we defeat the darkness Rasputin sees the Traveler and Guardians as a threat to humanity and the universe. So Rasputin wants to destroy the Travler(nameless ancient fraud) and Guardians(ones whose death is blessed). The third option is this directly references the confrontation with the Darkness. [spoiler]We learned a lot from the final cutscene of Shadowkeep. From what that vision said the Darkness or the beings that directly serve the Darkness(might be the race called the Veil) see themselves as not our friends or enemies but our salvation. This is very inline with what a god is supposed to be, gods are supposed to be salvation. They seem to be very prideful viewing themselves like gods and that they stand above all others. So the next line could either be from the perspective of the darkness and be destroy the traveler and guardians. Or from our perspective calling the Darkness a nameless ancient fraud and perhaps the Veil the ones whose death was blessed. [/spoiler]
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Thanks for the interesting post. I love the lore of this game. Wish it was more clearly and easily presented in general.
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2 AntwortenBig thonk 🤔