Again. Lighthouse was reserved for flawless runs. Flawless runs in competitive pvp =/= people actually playing it. I'm not even going to make the argument that it was super duper popular, I don't have the numbers in front of me, and it doesn't matter. You judging how popular it was by how many people went flawless, which takes more skill than the vast majority of the players posses is simply an inaccurate measurement for the total amount of players that participated. That's my argument for your logic being flawed. Not whether your claims of popularity are true or false, but source you use to support those claims. Which is, again, flawed.

Well again, if only 1% is completing an activity(and again, some of those were the same people on mutiple accounts) based on p2p connection matches, it doesn't reflect anyone's "skill" and doesn't mean it was popular. Yes, more than 1% played trials, I know that. I didn't dispute that. I simply said to the OPs comment that it wasn't popular enough for it to be mentioned, which was the only comment I made. By your logic, all the people asking for Trials to comeback enjoyed losing since completion doesn't reflect participation, because the majority of players lost.

Yeah dude, TONS of people played, never going flawless. I played with like 40 people that never once went flawless but played every single weekend. All you gotta do is get that 7th win before failing out of your card for a weapon drop, and the weapons were dope, why wouldn't you try to get them. You just don't play and chose to not even have a chance for drops because you can't win every single game every single time? Lame. Got flawless? Cool, you got an elemental burn version of the gun. The standard was no burn but basically the exact same gun. That pulse rifle was a monster base or adept and absolutely worth playing and not getting flawless, the hardest thing to do in d1 pvp, for a chance for that beast to drop.

Yeah, I didn't say I didn't play it. Most wins I could get were 5, with buffs or without. All I said was it wasn't all that popular for Bungie to mention it in TWAB like the OP said. I didn't bash it, or say I didn't play it. It did get old.

Well, I think there were a ton of people just like yourself in that regard. Played it, but couldn't flawless it. Like, a lot of people man. The vast majority I would say. Just because it was super hard to get flawless doesn't mean lots of people didn't play for loot regularly. And yeah dude, i don't think it's lack of popularity is why they didn't mention it. It's probably because they've been catching heat for pulling it and not replacing it with anything for like a year now. Why would they relight that fire? Unless they were announcing it's return, which they have no intention of doing, it's just pouring salt on the wound. Hey guys, remember that totally optional thing you loved and were furious with us for removing for no reason? Happy anniversary of it's launch, ps it's still not coming back, ever, even though you want it, and there's no reason why you shouldn't have it. Just like the massive backlash from all the nerfs last week and not one buff, got no mention, not one word about that, either. You think that's because it's not a popular enough topic? With every post about it getting thousands of upvotes and comments? Lol. They don't avoid these things because they aren't worthy of discussion or mention. It's just because if they don't have the exact thing everyone wants to hear, which clearly they dont, it'll be yet another dumpster fire.

[quote]Played it, but couldn't flawless it.[/quote] Whoa now lol. I didn't say I couldn't, just never could do it solo and didn't pay for a carry. My clan at the time were some of those "pvp players in this game that take themslves so seriously" super sweats. We played like 2 cards together and since I was usually the last one standing I couldn't solo a win. It's p2p matchmaking, the only skill was who was the host 85% of the time, about 5% was luck, and about 10% was actual skill. The only stats I've saw about participation was about 500k max players at the height of Trials.

[quote][quote]Played it, but couldn't flawless it.[/quote] I didn't say I couldn't, just never could do it[/quote] Yeah. Lmao. Also saying it's 10% skill, yet you can't do it is all I need to hear. It's always everything except your lack of competence huh? I'm never the guy to throw out the typical git gud, but honestly you earned it my guy. That mindset is pathetic. It's the host connection. It's my team. It's paid carries. It's sweats. It's lfg. Yeah man. It's all those things. And none of it is the fact that you're not good enough to complete the greatest feat in d1 PvP, certainly. No shame in that btw, at all, its the toughest thing you can accompish, and if you cant, you cant, it's okay. But you're delusional if you think the reason for this is 85% the p2p lmao. I'm mediocre at best, I have days I run super hot and crush, but honestly average out to about a 1.0 and even have had multiple flawless runs with equal skill teammates, no connection manipulation, no carries, just persistence. Didn't go flawless 99 out100 times, but sticking with it and learning from losses gets you the wins. You know what doesn't? Ignoring your poor play and or strategy and blaming everything but. Flawless trials card is 10% skill lmao. Spoken like a true loser. This will be my last reply to your silly ass. Good day.