1.Trials of Osiris being replaced with Trials of the Nine. 3v3 > 4v4
2. Weapon system change aka double primary
3. Skill tree removed for subclasses
4. Random Rolls removed at launch
5. Masterwork/infusement system broken as of forsaken. The change to enhancement cores no more rerolling current masterworks. cores needed for infusion
6. Creation of Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten to arm the best pvp players to farm everyone else in crucible.
7. Towers Vendors no longer having a loot pool that changes rolls at reset
8. Removing Arms day from Banshee-44
9.Factions, everything about them including faction rally
10. Sunsinger removed from game
11. Titan Bubble compromised(no longer has weapons or D1 functions)
12. The entire game leading you to eververse at launch
13. Bungie taking our D1 inventory only to resell it to us in D2
14. Bungie making D2 y1 items useless only to put them in the drip feed for the remaining life of D2
15. The original Dawning(d2) being a cash grab
16. Armor esthetics taking a massive step back. D1 raid age of triumph armor is what D2 should have started at. It is the biggest downgrade of the entire game.
17. Reskinning the armor for the raid lairs(perhaps the laziest raid armor of all time)
18. Guardian severely neutered at the begging of D2
19. pvp design for 4v4 which has ruined quickplay which is now 6v6 and the maps do not support it.
20. DLC change from strikes pvp maps raid/raid layer to Annual pass drip/lack of content
[quote]21. RNG based titles[/quote] added by RGoodellFinesU
22.[quote]XP throttling then "fixing" it by reinstating the gain value but doubling the amount required. So basically a different type of throttle with the same end result.[/quote] added by gilbertoconcerto
23. TTK at launch and team shoot meta taking 1 year to fix added by Verke0
24. Nerfing of Everything added in Forsaken Blade barrage/Shards, the decimation of Nova warp, OEM, Ursa added by Verke0
25. Removal of 3 of coins and glass needles added by hawk10586
26. Removing Perks from Armor at launch making all armor choices shallow(also having the best armor sets being sold in the eververse) added by HndsDwnThBest
27.[quote]Taking subclass perks and turning them into exotics, and turning past exotics into shittier ones (Zhalo, Red Death:Crimson, and that other submachine gun)[/quote] added by A Normal Coin
28. Juggler mechanic in all pve activities and Taking away ammo synths added by ghostx78x
29. Nightfalls not being challenging anymore and strike loot moved to nightfall's, no armor that is themed to the strike. added by Doctor_Roidberg and others
30. Removal of artifacts that gave us new ways to play TySlobb
31.Removal of Grimoire score. Then creating triumph in y2 to replace it and making all y1 triumphs worth 0 points invalidating an entire year of achievement. Also not carrying over Grimoire score from D1 to add to Triumph to further show your commitment and accomplishments to the game. If you played since D1Y1 you should have massive Grimoire/Triumph that you earned and has not been respected group contribution.
32. Revive tokens and prestige raid replace Hard raid with no revives, completely kills all chances of Hero moments and clutching added by BegFourMercy
33. Xur no longer sells the current exotics making him useless to 90% of the community. The drop rate of exotics has been reduced to 0% and duplicate exotics drop are all that drops. added by CaptainMericah
34. throttling XP to force us to the eververse added by Blimgauss
35. Inability to choose pvp game type added by almondclint
36.pvp post match lootdrop screen with expanded pvp loot table of popular archetypes providing possibility of godrolls like Matador Eyasluna added by mfx one
37. Changing Armor from Int, Dis, Str to Mob, Res, Rec while simultaneously locking armor sets to specific stats eliminating the option of hunting for an armor set that was aesthetically pleasing while maximizing effectiveness.added by Starkiller352
Honestly i can keep going but i'm sure everyone else has something to add. And this is not me being negative this is me communicating with Bungie all the changes they made that did not work at least for me and my friends.
Edit: i will add if you want to contribute. At some point we all know the Mods will shut down this conversation and move it to feedback. Thank you for your contributions i feel we had a real honest dialogue on what we miss about the game that we love.
Edit 2: After being part of this conversation all day i want to point out that the Destiny community has been very loyal based on what we have endured. Bungie isn't my or your enemy, as negative as this post can feel. I want this conversation to hopefully lead to positive change. To show what about D1 we loved that was removed for whatever reason, and changes in D2 we do not agree with. One of the reason this forum is here is to communicate with Bungie. We do not get a summitt. So consolidating all of or most of our gripes here can lead to feedback that can be used.
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Bringing D2 out; How can humanity have 2 or 3 different Destinys? You can tell that D2 was pushed on Bungie rather than updating Destiny over 10 years, imagine the game we would be inhabiting at this stage if they had released big updates rather than new titles? I would have paid the exact same amount of money. I will say this, I don't have the energy to go through the epic lows of a new Destiny title...I just don't have it in me and truth be told I was fatigued going into D2 with Bungies BS.
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Bearbeitet von Gatoryu: 2/16/2019 1:55:34 PMLoosing points in crucible upon loss, when someone disconnects or leaves deliberately. Putting random players against organized teams, making 95% of the match a massacre AND you lose points, of course. No even half decent system of skill count and matchmaking accordingly.
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Bearbeitet von TwoFiveOne_: 2/16/2019 1:42:02 PMEhh......
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5 AntwortenBearbeitet von Telrik87: 2/15/2019 7:52:13 PMAnybody remember the shader controversy the very first day of launch in D2? Oh, and my personal pet peeve; the lore between Destiny and D2, is no longer consistent. The retconning of the lore over the last year and a half makes me super salty. Also, crucible stats and medals don’t mean crap anymore. It’s all participation trophy bull crap now.
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Bearbeitet von Venium: 2/16/2019 1:26:02 PM38. Not having the ability to choose what you want and have more options in subclasses, and been reduced to Subclass trees.
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2 Antworten*Killing Cayde as a shallow attempt to bring people back to play especialy with " The last wish" as a raid , teasing his revival but then confirming he is gone for good.
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Bearbeitet von JazzyPaladin477: 2/16/2019 12:48:52 PM-Changing the art style from amazingly realistic and moody to pretty/higher res but "meh" level low detail washed out colour stylized. -Cringy writing/dialogue..."we got this"
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1 Antworten21. RNG based titles
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Bearbeitet von BadScooter: 2/16/2019 1:16:39 PMProblem is they were probably hamstrung meeting the requirements of the Activision contract. Other thing now is if they have all the stuff players want waiting in the wings, they're gonna have some job convincing us to pay for it.
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And this is only the beginning.
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Bearbeitet von MindfulPizza: 2/16/2019 12:57:08 PMStill can not carries friends on the first raid . or solo the raid . easy . on the content they buy . with out them paying 100$s for carries .
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3 AntwortenThe rise of tess everworse
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2 AntwortenYour're STILL here? Jesus find something that makes you happy. At this point its pathetic. The crying, the pleading, the begging, the incoherent nostalgia of better times & memories. Sounds like a relationship that's toxic af. If there is so much to hate just go. Good God man.
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Go play something else
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1 AntwortenPlease add making Xur utterly useless and STILL not selling forsaken exotics.
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Bearbeitet von BC1 Edge: 2/16/2019 6:09:00 AMGREED & LAZINESS
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1 AntwortenMost or nearly all these reasons is why i walked away from this game about a year ago.... From reading the posts, things dont seem to have improved over the time away
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One word ... SRL
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Really wany my pre nerf hawkmoon back! I feel sorry for the xbox players that they could never experience how good it was
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2 AntwortenA lot of your list is highly subjective. Personally, I preferred the dual primary system. In pvp, I prefer less ability spam and less ohk weaponry. I prefer knowing that a gunfight between the same weapon is decided by factors I can control rather than the rng nature of the random perks of the same gun. None of those preferences make the current state of the game a "mistake". It just makes the game less to my liking, and that's fine. I adapt or I play something else. What I don't do that most of the feedback Bungie receives is insist that the game change for me rather than the other way around.
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1 AntwortenListening the casuals too much. Nerfs are based to make the game casual friendly not rewarding. Veteran like me and lot of players are feeling tired of lack of acknowledgement to die hard fand that play 15+ hours while a casual gets everything.
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2 AntwortenIf it’s that bad why play it so much?
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blink for hunter and warlock strange coins 3 of coins reroll weapons and armor
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first error let console cry baby mass cry
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Bearbeitet von MindfulPizza: 2/16/2019 11:25:01 AMNo matchmaking on old raids , No dedicated servers on pvp. so they nerf the cheaters . o wait there afraid , few streamers people be like not watch when a entire new group shows up . there reason 30 million people now think destiny a joke . 35rd they need stop nerfing and counter the stuff . and allow us to counter the outside the box stuff.
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But hey, they gave us vault space