1.Trials of Osiris being replaced with Trials of the Nine. 3v3 > 4v4
2. Weapon system change aka double primary
3. Skill tree removed for subclasses
4. Random Rolls removed at launch
5. Masterwork/infusement system broken as of forsaken. The change to enhancement cores no more rerolling current masterworks. cores needed for infusion
6. Creation of Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten to arm the best pvp players to farm everyone else in crucible.
7. Towers Vendors no longer having a loot pool that changes rolls at reset
8. Removing Arms day from Banshee-44
9.Factions, everything about them including faction rally
10. Sunsinger removed from game
11. Titan Bubble compromised(no longer has weapons or D1 functions)
12. The entire game leading you to eververse at launch
13. Bungie taking our D1 inventory only to resell it to us in D2
14. Bungie making D2 y1 items useless only to put them in the drip feed for the remaining life of D2
15. The original Dawning(d2) being a cash grab
16. Armor esthetics taking a massive step back. D1 raid age of triumph armor is what D2 should have started at. It is the biggest downgrade of the entire game.
17. Reskinning the armor for the raid lairs(perhaps the laziest raid armor of all time)
18. Guardian severely neutered at the begging of D2
19. pvp design for 4v4 which has ruined quickplay which is now 6v6 and the maps do not support it.
20. DLC change from strikes pvp maps raid/raid layer to Annual pass drip/lack of content
[quote]21. RNG based titles[/quote] added by RGoodellFinesU
22.[quote]XP throttling then "fixing" it by reinstating the gain value but doubling the amount required. So basically a different type of throttle with the same end result.[/quote] added by gilbertoconcerto
23. TTK at launch and team shoot meta taking 1 year to fix added by Verke0
24. Nerfing of Everything added in Forsaken Blade barrage/Shards, the decimation of Nova warp, OEM, Ursa added by Verke0
25. Removal of 3 of coins and glass needles added by hawk10586
26. Removing Perks from Armor at launch making all armor choices shallow(also having the best armor sets being sold in the eververse) added by HndsDwnThBest
27.[quote]Taking subclass perks and turning them into exotics, and turning past exotics into shittier ones (Zhalo, Red Death:Crimson, and that other submachine gun)[/quote] added by A Normal Coin
28. Juggler mechanic in all pve activities and Taking away ammo synths added by ghostx78x
29. Nightfalls not being challenging anymore and strike loot moved to nightfall's, no armor that is themed to the strike. added by Doctor_Roidberg and others
30. Removal of artifacts that gave us new ways to play TySlobb
31.Removal of Grimoire score. Then creating triumph in y2 to replace it and making all y1 triumphs worth 0 points invalidating an entire year of achievement. Also not carrying over Grimoire score from D1 to add to Triumph to further show your commitment and accomplishments to the game. If you played since D1Y1 you should have massive Grimoire/Triumph that you earned and has not been respected group contribution.
32. Revive tokens and prestige raid replace Hard raid with no revives, completely kills all chances of Hero moments and clutching added by BegFourMercy
33. Xur no longer sells the current exotics making him useless to 90% of the community. The drop rate of exotics has been reduced to 0% and duplicate exotics drop are all that drops. added by CaptainMericah
34. throttling XP to force us to the eververse added by Blimgauss
35. Inability to choose pvp game type added by almondclint
36.pvp post match lootdrop screen with expanded pvp loot table of popular archetypes providing possibility of godrolls like Matador Eyasluna added by mfx one
37. Changing Armor from Int, Dis, Str to Mob, Res, Rec while simultaneously locking armor sets to specific stats eliminating the option of hunting for an armor set that was aesthetically pleasing while maximizing effectiveness.added by Starkiller352
Honestly i can keep going but i'm sure everyone else has something to add. And this is not me being negative this is me communicating with Bungie all the changes they made that did not work at least for me and my friends.
Edit: i will add if you want to contribute. At some point we all know the Mods will shut down this conversation and move it to feedback. Thank you for your contributions i feel we had a real honest dialogue on what we miss about the game that we love.
Edit 2: After being part of this conversation all day i want to point out that the Destiny community has been very loyal based on what we have endured. Bungie isn't my or your enemy, as negative as this post can feel. I want this conversation to hopefully lead to positive change. To show what about D1 we loved that was removed for whatever reason, and changes in D2 we do not agree with. One of the reason this forum is here is to communicate with Bungie. We do not get a summitt. So consolidating all of or most of our gripes here can lead to feedback that can be used.
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Blodrik: 2/15/2019 6:54:39 PMhttps://medium.com/super-jump/investing-in-players-why-the-success-of-rainbow-six-siege-matters-90175f7573d2 Im just leaving this here,old article but still relevant...
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Bearbeitet von rooster33: 2/16/2019 4:29:09 PMYou should rename the post : Why Everyone left D2. Honestly you pretty much got all the complaints. The way I describe D2 now is akin to going to a casino with signs everywhere stating "everyone is a winner"...yeah OK lol Bungie made some really, really bad house rules, and everything you stated and more is the reason I can't play D2 anymore. A big issue for me is what I stated earlier, the game is just rigged, and it sucks the life and fun out of the game. Almost forgot, Sunsinger. F you Bungie 😒
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5 AntwortenI agree with everything. Except number 2.
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2 AntwortenHey...guess who is still here making a wall of cry, but played 9 hours ago?
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4 AntwortenMaking the game a boring, endless grind catered to elitists, YouTubers, no-lifers, and neckbeards. Exotics not dropping. Making strike specific loot RNG instead of guaranteed like in D1. Snipers don't penetrate shields for crits like in D1.
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Hunter cloaks were so much better in D1. Same goes for armor in general.
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2 AntwortenMan I couldn’t agree more with all of that it just proves they don’t care about their fans that’s y anthem and division are where I’m goin I been playing since the beta in d1 but I can’t stick around and defend this anymore when all my friends have left for those reasons and I agree such a sad day what’s not broke don’t fix it bungie!!! All these changes suck and you have rectified any.
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Matchmaking for all activities solo or fire team. The main trouble is leadership at Bungie. I feel bad for the talent there that has to work under such stupidity and also the ones who try to spin it. Forsaken sales are the true worth of this franchise.
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3 AntwortenSeason gating powerful bounties. It’s only ok when streamers do it but when the masses catch on, oop, no more. I was 627 when Scourge came out when others were in the 640s
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I never thought it would come to this but this game is boring. It pains me I’m an old school D1 player reppin house of wolves but there’s isn’t anything to get or collect nothing to do and no reason to keep coming back
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I hope they read this list and say to themselves Wow We really -blam!-ed up Cause yes Bungie you did -blam!- up and not a little you -blam!-ed up a lot. You killed your own franchise. Good luck reviving that Ghost.
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The biggest mistake? They left behind D1, I would of happily stayed there and continued
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Removing Agility, Armour and Recovery from subclass trees and implementing them to armour hence removing Int, Dis, Str and then adding them as mods when requires some more grinding.
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What a glorious position of omnipotence you occupy..........not.(yer I did the not thing and will punish myself accordingly)
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Bearbeitet von PlaythingX: 2/16/2019 3:22:30 PM"Two tokens and a blue." The most memorable moment from a live-reveal ever. Ever.
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3 Antwortenbringing back TLW at a disgracefull state back in the begining of d1 this weapon was a 3 hipfire bodyshot kill and it was concidered average, suros was considered strong, prople were asking for thorn buffs and mida multitoot was called mida multishit because of its bad ttk. bungie has been so keen in nerfing weapons all these years that mida became op at some point WITHOUT IT BEING BUFFED ONCE, this trend continued to launch of d2 with the high ttk teamshoting meta and now TLW is back in this game and it concidered ok even with a 50% higher ttk than in the begining of d1 (2 hipfire headshots to 3 headshots min req to kill full hp guardian) proving that the ttk problem was never actualy fixed, bungie has listened to people crying about op weapons so much that they ruined their game I look at my first ever exotic from d1 today and the state it is in and i want to puke...
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The one and only thing they did and continue to mess up on. They allow children to dictate to them how their game should be.
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But we now have notifications when we login telling us what is in the TWAB!!!
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The old planets
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6 AntwortenBearbeitet von Demon_XXVII: 2/16/2019 6:34:46 AMLuke Smith as 'Game Director' Greedy 'New Bungie', chasing the Activision dime Crucible Bias Dev Team Lazy PVE team Losing Jaimie Griesemer, Joseph Staten & Marty O'Donnell from 'Old Bungie' ....and replacing them with a hack team of 4th rate writers
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I like this game :)
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37. Mercury
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Trials not being re-added
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Scavenger perks really break PvP in my opinion. Having one scavenger perk means you'll basically never have to use a primary. Strange how special weapons were so dominate in D1, which led to the double primary system, which wasn't liked. Then we got special weapons back and it's the same problem we had in D1 😥
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I don’t agree with 6. I don’t have them, but if you adapt to your opponent, I promise you can outplay them. I’m no sweaty, but I’ve also never complained about the gun. Also, it’s a pinnacle Crucible weapon and they earned it. At the worse, Lock it for only Competitive use, but even then, I’m indifferent about the LH/NF controversy
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Bringing D2 out; How can humanity have 2 or 3 different Destinys? You can tell that D2 was pushed on Bungie rather than updating Destiny over 10 years, imagine the game we would be inhabiting at this stage if they had released big updates rather than new titles? I would have paid the exact same amount of money. I will say this, I don't have the energy to go through the epic lows of a new Destiny title...I just don't have it in me and truth be told I was fatigued going into D2 with Bungies BS.