1.Trials of Osiris being replaced with Trials of the Nine. 3v3 > 4v4
2. Weapon system change aka double primary
3. Skill tree removed for subclasses
4. Random Rolls removed at launch
5. Masterwork/infusement system broken as of forsaken. The change to enhancement cores no more rerolling current masterworks. cores needed for infusion
6. Creation of Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten to arm the best pvp players to farm everyone else in crucible.
7. Towers Vendors no longer having a loot pool that changes rolls at reset
8. Removing Arms day from Banshee-44
9.Factions, everything about them including faction rally
10. Sunsinger removed from game
11. Titan Bubble compromised(no longer has weapons or D1 functions)
12. The entire game leading you to eververse at launch
13. Bungie taking our D1 inventory only to resell it to us in D2
14. Bungie making D2 y1 items useless only to put them in the drip feed for the remaining life of D2
15. The original Dawning(d2) being a cash grab
16. Armor esthetics taking a massive step back. D1 raid age of triumph armor is what D2 should have started at. It is the biggest downgrade of the entire game.
17. Reskinning the armor for the raid lairs(perhaps the laziest raid armor of all time)
18. Guardian severely neutered at the begging of D2
19. pvp design for 4v4 which has ruined quickplay which is now 6v6 and the maps do not support it.
20. DLC change from strikes pvp maps raid/raid layer to Annual pass drip/lack of content
[quote]21. RNG based titles[/quote] added by RGoodellFinesU
22.[quote]XP throttling then "fixing" it by reinstating the gain value but doubling the amount required. So basically a different type of throttle with the same end result.[/quote] added by gilbertoconcerto
23. TTK at launch and team shoot meta taking 1 year to fix added by Verke0
24. Nerfing of Everything added in Forsaken Blade barrage/Shards, the decimation of Nova warp, OEM, Ursa added by Verke0
25. Removal of 3 of coins and glass needles added by hawk10586
26. Removing Perks from Armor at launch making all armor choices shallow(also having the best armor sets being sold in the eververse) added by HndsDwnThBest
27.[quote]Taking subclass perks and turning them into exotics, and turning past exotics into shittier ones (Zhalo, Red Death:Crimson, and that other submachine gun)[/quote] added by A Normal Coin
28. Juggler mechanic in all pve activities and Taking away ammo synths added by ghostx78x
29. Nightfalls not being challenging anymore and strike loot moved to nightfall's, no armor that is themed to the strike. added by Doctor_Roidberg and others
30. Removal of artifacts that gave us new ways to play TySlobb
31.Removal of Grimoire score. Then creating triumph in y2 to replace it and making all y1 triumphs worth 0 points invalidating an entire year of achievement. Also not carrying over Grimoire score from D1 to add to Triumph to further show your commitment and accomplishments to the game. If you played since D1Y1 you should have massive Grimoire/Triumph that you earned and has not been respected group contribution.
32. Revive tokens and prestige raid replace Hard raid with no revives, completely kills all chances of Hero moments and clutching added by BegFourMercy
33. Xur no longer sells the current exotics making him useless to 90% of the community. The drop rate of exotics has been reduced to 0% and duplicate exotics drop are all that drops. added by CaptainMericah
34. throttling XP to force us to the eververse added by Blimgauss
35. Inability to choose pvp game type added by almondclint
36.pvp post match lootdrop screen with expanded pvp loot table of popular archetypes providing possibility of godrolls like Matador Eyasluna added by mfx one
37. Changing Armor from Int, Dis, Str to Mob, Res, Rec while simultaneously locking armor sets to specific stats eliminating the option of hunting for an armor set that was aesthetically pleasing while maximizing effectiveness.added by Starkiller352
Honestly i can keep going but i'm sure everyone else has something to add. And this is not me being negative this is me communicating with Bungie all the changes they made that did not work at least for me and my friends.
Edit: i will add if you want to contribute. At some point we all know the Mods will shut down this conversation and move it to feedback. Thank you for your contributions i feel we had a real honest dialogue on what we miss about the game that we love.
Edit 2: After being part of this conversation all day i want to point out that the Destiny community has been very loyal based on what we have endured. Bungie isn't my or your enemy, as negative as this post can feel. I want this conversation to hopefully lead to positive change. To show what about D1 we loved that was removed for whatever reason, and changes in D2 we do not agree with. One of the reason this forum is here is to communicate with Bungie. We do not get a summitt. So consolidating all of or most of our gripes here can lead to feedback that can be used.
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Wow this is going to take awhile. How about D2 launch. 90 percent of it was a big mistake.
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This post needs to be pinned forever on the top
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Skelton keys from strikes to make heroic strikes not worthless like in destiny 2
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Remove planetary materials as a requirement for infusing.
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3 AntwortenThe vanguard speechs before begins a strike in D1 were removed, it was something simple, but I loved to hear.
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4 AntwortenBearbeitet von Xenomorph: 2/16/2019 9:17:50 PMI've been so much happier since being thrown off the hamster wheel. I play the real endgame now... Destiny 2: Forum Edition If you're really unhappy with this game... Just. Stop. Playing. It. Sure, it sucks your favorite game has died in the arse. Sure, there's more "content" to come with Penumbra... But seriously, getting so upset over a friggin video game is not good for your health... Mentally or otherwise. Maybe being an "older gamer" gives me a different perspective on things, but honestly, once you break the stranglehold this game can have on you, you'll not regret it. Just chill, go catch up on Netflix or whatever.
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Removing strange coins entirely. Strange coins made sense in the lore and was really cool and made sense in the actual game as well.
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5 AntwortenSimply put... All they needed to do is listen to the bulk of the player base (not just streamers and/or content creators) and take the best things we all loved about D1 and build on that. Almost 100% of all things D2, the vast majority of the community did NOT ask for. Also stop nerfing everything into the ground and bring some other things that need strength up. Bring the “fun factor” back. Great post, keep it trending!!
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You could have saved yourself a lot of time by just typing making destiny 2
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37. Removed anything and everything that made Destiny fun. [spoiler]Games are hard to make.[/spoiler]
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These are definitely mistakes Bungie has made. But what about our mistake? We....We believed Bungie were listening...But like a bad ex theyre all talk and no walk. Why does is take a team of 500 employees 6 months for decent patches and not even a solution to trials?!? EVEN THOUGH WE GAVE THEM A SOLUTION! Bring back original.
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Spot on Bungie should look at this list of shame, maybe frame it and put it in the biggest meeting room for future reference. It's so bad it's not even funny they must look at it and think how havecwe still got a fan base.
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What I miss
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Matchmaking for everything. Forcing me into playing boring content for trinkets Way too confusing. A world that feels dead, no life.
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Shocking vault system. Wasn’t perfect in D1 but they somehow managed to make it worse in D2.
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5 AntwortenCreating a d2 in the first place when we was already sold on a 10 yr d1
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6 AntwortenAdding crutch weapons LH and NF to the sandbox and completely -blam!-ing the shit out of pvp fun
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Bearbeitet von Raevenent: 2/16/2019 11:47:28 AMRemoval of Strike Streaks Removal of Strike Scoring Removal of Strike specific loot(Like D1 had) Say "we're not going to be nerfing but bring other things in the game up to said powerful thing's strength" only to do the complete opposite a month or two later, thus the vicious cycle continuing(It's already happening)
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Taking some Heavy weapons and slapping them into Secondary and some Primary slots.
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I don’t have the money to buy every new game that comes out. I’ve invested my money into the Destiny franchise because (I thought) my time would be respected. The advertising for D1 promoted a 10 year plan in which our characters would grow over time. Since I know my financial situation wouldn’t be changing anytime soon, I’d figured that this franchise would be a good investment. Turns out my investment skills aren’t to good. I’ve put enough time and money into this franchise, and backing out now would mean having to start over with a new franchise. I don’t want to have to start over with a new franchise, but this franchise is slowly killing itself. I’m going to ride out the Destiny franchise, but I’ll never buy another Bungie game ever again.
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38: changing the quest line for the ace of spades from the taken king version 39: places the last word hand cannon on a quest and then incorporate it with the drifter 40: making all weapons in the game shit 41: not providing alternative ways to complete quest like the on the comms quest 42: not honouring the debt that bungie owes to us veteran guardians of the first game when it comes to our gear 43: SRL 44: Xur Ps: bungie has been jacking us for xp since 2015 so nothing new there😏
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Can we add a pretty shallow character creation system and in addition not able to even change your characters appearance after creation?
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6 AntwortenBearbeitet von HndsDwnThBest: 2/15/2019 5:28:03 PMIt's not a great one. But the whole carrying around and throwing an orb mechanics in every raid and such. Shoot it's even in missions and open world We need something new
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Making characters slow before the go fast update
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You missed the most important one: tailoring D2 on LGBT and beggars.
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Blodrik: 2/15/2019 6:54:39 PMhttps://medium.com/super-jump/investing-in-players-why-the-success-of-rainbow-six-siege-matters-90175f7573d2 Im just leaving this here,old article but still relevant...