1.Trials of Osiris being replaced with Trials of the Nine. 3v3 > 4v4
2. Weapon system change aka double primary
3. Skill tree removed for subclasses
4. Random Rolls removed at launch
5. Masterwork/infusement system broken as of forsaken. The change to enhancement cores no more rerolling current masterworks. cores needed for infusion
6. Creation of Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten to arm the best pvp players to farm everyone else in crucible.
7. Towers Vendors no longer having a loot pool that changes rolls at reset
8. Removing Arms day from Banshee-44
9.Factions, everything about them including faction rally
10. Sunsinger removed from game
11. Titan Bubble compromised(no longer has weapons or D1 functions)
12. The entire game leading you to eververse at launch
13. Bungie taking our D1 inventory only to resell it to us in D2
14. Bungie making D2 y1 items useless only to put them in the drip feed for the remaining life of D2
15. The original Dawning(d2) being a cash grab
16. Armor esthetics taking a massive step back. D1 raid age of triumph armor is what D2 should have started at. It is the biggest downgrade of the entire game.
17. Reskinning the armor for the raid lairs(perhaps the laziest raid armor of all time)
18. Guardian severely neutered at the begging of D2
19. pvp design for 4v4 which has ruined quickplay which is now 6v6 and the maps do not support it.
20. DLC change from strikes pvp maps raid/raid layer to Annual pass drip/lack of content
[quote]21. RNG based titles[/quote] added by RGoodellFinesU
22.[quote]XP throttling then "fixing" it by reinstating the gain value but doubling the amount required. So basically a different type of throttle with the same end result.[/quote] added by gilbertoconcerto
23. TTK at launch and team shoot meta taking 1 year to fix added by Verke0
24. Nerfing of Everything added in Forsaken Blade barrage/Shards, the decimation of Nova warp, OEM, Ursa added by Verke0
25. Removal of 3 of coins and glass needles added by hawk10586
26. Removing Perks from Armor at launch making all armor choices shallow(also having the best armor sets being sold in the eververse) added by HndsDwnThBest
27.[quote]Taking subclass perks and turning them into exotics, and turning past exotics into shittier ones (Zhalo, Red Death:Crimson, and that other submachine gun)[/quote] added by A Normal Coin
28. Juggler mechanic in all pve activities and Taking away ammo synths added by ghostx78x
29. Nightfalls not being challenging anymore and strike loot moved to nightfall's, no armor that is themed to the strike. added by Doctor_Roidberg and others
30. Removal of artifacts that gave us new ways to play TySlobb
31.Removal of Grimoire score. Then creating triumph in y2 to replace it and making all y1 triumphs worth 0 points invalidating an entire year of achievement. Also not carrying over Grimoire score from D1 to add to Triumph to further show your commitment and accomplishments to the game. If you played since D1Y1 you should have massive Grimoire/Triumph that you earned and has not been respected group contribution.
32. Revive tokens and prestige raid replace Hard raid with no revives, completely kills all chances of Hero moments and clutching added by BegFourMercy
33. Xur no longer sells the current exotics making him useless to 90% of the community. The drop rate of exotics has been reduced to 0% and duplicate exotics drop are all that drops. added by CaptainMericah
34. throttling XP to force us to the eververse added by Blimgauss
35. Inability to choose pvp game type added by almondclint
36.pvp post match lootdrop screen with expanded pvp loot table of popular archetypes providing possibility of godrolls like Matador Eyasluna added by mfx one
37. Changing Armor from Int, Dis, Str to Mob, Res, Rec while simultaneously locking armor sets to specific stats eliminating the option of hunting for an armor set that was aesthetically pleasing while maximizing effectiveness.added by Starkiller352
Honestly i can keep going but i'm sure everyone else has something to add. And this is not me being negative this is me communicating with Bungie all the changes they made that did not work at least for me and my friends.
Edit: i will add if you want to contribute. At some point we all know the Mods will shut down this conversation and move it to feedback. Thank you for your contributions i feel we had a real honest dialogue on what we miss about the game that we love.
Edit 2: After being part of this conversation all day i want to point out that the Destiny community has been very loyal based on what we have endured. Bungie isn't my or your enemy, as negative as this post can feel. I want this conversation to hopefully lead to positive change. To show what about D1 we loved that was removed for whatever reason, and changes in D2 we do not agree with. One of the reason this forum is here is to communicate with Bungie. We do not get a summitt. So consolidating all of or most of our gripes here can lead to feedback that can be used.
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1 AntwortenIt would be amazing if we could customize our weapons..... Utilizing materials, glimmer, cores, parts, to add the scope we want, the magazine, rounds, perks, ect... this whole random role thing is garbage.... We should be able to take any weapon we like and add which ever kind of scope, red dot, blue dot, green dot, purple dot, cross hair, clear sights, metal sights, and so on.... we should be able to customize reload speed, magazine, explosive rounds, tracer rounds, pulse, rapid fire ect.... Make it XP, glimmer, cores, materials, shards based and have set perimeter and maxes... Kind of how you customize your character on MLB show with attributes as well. Speed, focus, strength, agility, injury prone and so on... this can all apply to the armor. And charge for certain cosmetic stuff, like colors, and customized appearances. That way they have a revenue stream for certain things that are cosmetic based only....
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5 AntwortenMost of these have been fixed. How about instead of focusing on the negative and the mistakes in the past, you focus on the successes hope for the future.
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10 Antwortenmost of these are a yikes from me as they aren't an issue
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19 AntwortenHoly shot you guys really like to -blam!-ing complain? Why not add an ask for a -blam!-ing nerf as well? Bungie has split with Activision I’m sure everything will be fine
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Catered to streamers (who should get real jobs) and tryhard no-life gamers.
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As soon as I read your first point I liked it. That was my reason for playing Destiny when most had left. I loved Trials of Osiris. 3 V 3 elimination, The clutch moments the team plays, the sniping. It had everything so right. Everyone had their imbalance which strangely enough brought balance.
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1 AntwortenAdding massive recoil to guns on controller for no good reason, but making mouse and keyboard have perfect stability, when in D1 recoil was balanced already.
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gentle reminder that these decisions were made by bungie, not activision
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1 AntwortenWhat about glowing shaders? What about chroma armour and chroma itself? What about ornaments from raids? Srl??? Iron Lord status or at least some acknowledgment??? Why did Shaxx take my Raze lighter? Why is my Iron Lord exotic sword not with me? I guess not even Saladin cares that my armour and weapon got destroyed or disappeared.. I guess pocket Infinity will always be the only exotic left in d1y1 (not related to d2) Where's my Luna's Howl oh wait
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Drip feeding content that would only last 2-3 months, to over the span of a year,. Charging us more for that than the base game cost, and it being a shallow package of QoL changes that should have been in the base game. (something most all studios do for free to regain confidence.).. Too many avenues to level up, but at the same time making power levels obsolete.- basically the only thing it represents is which expansions you own, and how much time you invest,. and being locked out of paid content because of LL requirements thst are unobtainable at launch, unless you were a streamer and magically knew you could stack bounties and raid keys from the otherwise pointless grind during content luls.. I still have hope,. just not sure if I'll still be interested by the time they get it together.
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They made Destiny 2 instead of just expanding D1
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And you didnt even mention D1 lol
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5 AntwortenThe #1 mistake was letting Joe Statton leave! Destiny was his baby, and they (Activision and someone at the top of Bungie) didn't let him do his job properly. That's why this game has been a dumpster fire since the beginning. The talent that was left to pick up where Joe left off was not in place, and still not in place. The person they hired for the lore must have been a pre-school teacher at one time, because that's how the story seems to be targeted to toddlers. I think if Joe Statton was allowed to make the game the way he had planned, it would have been a lot better game, even today.
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Removing strike scoring less modifiers on heroic strikes, awful pinnacle weapons ruined crucible
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3 Antworten#6... WTF Bungie? Me, a scrub solo has somehow muscles through to the end of the Luna’s ridiculous quest... 2 games out from getting it and the next four games are against sweaties, you guys suck, does your crap system know a scrub is close and you do this shit on purpose? The game really is shit right now.
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3 Antwortenyou should have made this an drinking game on how many times bungie messed up with destiny 2
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Bearbeitet von Phobos113: 2/17/2019 5:29:38 PMWow.. this list really points just how badly D2 sucks when compared to D1, I mean seeing everything in one spot like this... They removed a LOT of good shit and added a TONNE of bad shit. and #6... I'm pretty sure the game rigs competitive matches at a certain point, it was the same way with Trials of The Nine as well, me and my clan mates could never get past 3 or 4 wins in a row before being put up against sweats that were FAR above our skill level. I've been stuck going back and forth in comp on stupid Heroic 2 - 3 for the last two or three weeks now. I've noticed that when you are trying to do quests (usually exotic quests) where you have to collect stuff or beat a certain public event, it "mysteriously" becomes harder to find such event or said resource, so I definitely wouldn't put it past them to do the same with something like Luna's Howl and Not Forgotten. People come up with the BS retort of "Oh, well it's because you're just not good enough to get it", BULL. SHIT. It's because their algorithm is f[i]u[/i]cking r[i]e[/i]t[i]a[/i]rded and basically turning it into another type of RNG grind, skill has less to do with it than luck does (by majority rule), and that basically makes it RNG. It's all good though, after this next reset, if I don't have either of the guns, I never will, and I'll probably be done with the game as well. I'm about done with their bullshit.
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Removal of the 1hk titan smash
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I'm just glad so many games are getting ready to come out that I wanna play. I beat AC: Odyssey and loved it. I'm currently playing Far Cry: New Dawn and am about 15 hours into Anthem. Division 2, DMC5, Metro Exodus, Crackdown 3, Days Gone and so many more even before June.
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von Dirge: 2/17/2019 1:07:22 AMThey make certain archetypes of weapon classes with higher RPM more powerful than lower RPM weapons. Make a no sense. For example, why is it a Bygones and Inaugural Address can almost always out-play my Redrix's Broadsword when Bygones and Inaugural Address is a 390 RPM pulse rifles and Broadsword is 340? My Broadsword should be doing a bit more base damage. Buff from 34 crit to 37-38 crit. There, problem solved.
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Making every piece of gear useless and not adding raid specific gear with their respective raid perks (not adding them as a mod you can just remove). Literally every piece of gear is almost the same and each new gear set looks the same. With that the weapons in open world and raids have almost no incentive to be used outside of a few exceptions. D1 had a great choice of weapons and gear and most of the gear and weapons looked good and the armor in openworld matched the area or boss you killed to get it and most of the weapons you got in open world were actually viable and had a nice design. Dreaming city type loot should be available in each planet and look good and the includes weapons. And boss specific loot should still be added back along with ornaments, idk why they took those out. Forsaken was basically D1 yr1 and they aren't making a Yr2.
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Let's defiently not forget how they put almost no effort into making any raid outside the first and the 4th raid and most of them are easy as hell with no puzzles our challenges that compare to D1
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All things Bungie did right: 1. Nothing.
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Add replacing burns with singes
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Let's play a game called sit on the forums of a game you supposedly hate and whine like a dumb bitch instead of playing an actual game.