I think not. Makers of halo a pvp game that had great story and lore but players kept coming back for its pvp.

Pve gets too boring too quickly. If it's gonna be pve centric then you need quality content that has much more replayability than the current stuff. Forge gets boring very quickly as are the quests. Strikes are boring like u said. There is nowhere near enough good raid loot for the amount of raids there are and there needs to be ways to make the old raids become relevant. Light levels are too easy to grind. The whisper quest was D1 level good but there needs to be more of this. Everyone has always enjoyed these things since D1 so there should be more of this and less of this low quality boring stuff. The current style of content drip is fine by me, but needs to drip more frequently and be more to drop. I know too many people who get bored of a dlc after one month which really doesn't bode well for the game. There is nothing wrong with wanting pvp to be much better than it is. There is nothing wrong with wanting pve much better than it is. Both have a place and bring together a bigger community which has potential to be a great thing.

I for the longest time after destiny 1's launch i was largely in agreement with you on a lot of your points and views. I loved pve but couldn't stomach pvp and wanted it removed entirely. That was until trials of osiris began and the awesome gear to chase got me hooked. Since then through the rest of destiny 1's and 2's lives I've primarily enjoyed pvp as it's the activity I find to be constantly refreshing and challenging with arguably the best rewards to grind for. Pvp has kept me interested for a long time as pve for me feels stale. You're entitled to enjoy the game how you like but without pvp, I and a number of others would find little to keep us grinding.

TLDR - PVP has been the most streamed thing in destiny since D1.

There is literally no other PvP game that has the same feeling as destiny. Bungie screw a lot of things up. But they freaking nailed the gun mechanics and physics. I only play this game for PvP. It wouldn't have any use to me other wise.

Lol dude there is literally zero point in replaying pveasy or even doing it in the first place

All the triggered PvP players in here are absolutely brilliant, so much denial it's laughable 😂 PvP has a negative impact on the game in terms of diversity and creative license, creates a bad community vibe and the forums are full of you crying about balance in a PvE focused loot shooter. While PvP has a place it's tacked on to a PvE shooter, so PvE will and should always be the focus. There's a reason it usually has 50% more players on a daily basis. People saying trails saved destiny are full of it...it was that good and had that many people playing it, they ditched it and made gambit...yeah. I should say this is my opinion and I'm not interested in arguing with the PvP crowd, I spend far to much time reading you bitch and cry as it is.

I love all the PvP whiners. So many of them out there. Wah, wah, wah! Go play a different game.

I think both sides are pretty silly looking here: PvP players can’t make easy or valid arguments that they can reach for and PvE players don’t realize that PvP players aren’t the developers, Bungie are. I’ll try to speak both sides here, but I think the OP has summed up the PvE-side quite well, so I’ll focus on my PvP fanboy side a bit more. PvP players did not directly cause everything that has happened they simply served as a call to action for Bungie. And Bungie is pretty clearly bad at buffing, nerfing, tuning, etc. Bungie has the ability to make better decisions than what they have made and we need to make [b]them[/b] accountable for that instead of just pinning the blame on each other. We have all worked to make a better Destiny experience for everyone. As to why PvP players are suddenly not at each other’s throats (this started as a response to a comment but I felt like this should probably be stand alone now), it is because when you care about something like Destiny’s Crucible, you care enough to share your ideas on how to make it the best it possibly can be. Although very few of these ideas are objectively right, they all stem from a passion. A passion that is being directly challenged by this post. They are reminding Bungie and the OP that a significant portion (I didn’t say some of the ridiculous statistics I’ve seen here yay :)) of players like, liked, or are interested in seeing a better Crucible. Sure PvE players may [i]perceive[/i] it as “insignificant” because there are more players playing PvE at most times but the amount they’d lose from losing their PvP playerbase is very tangible and would be unlike Bungievision to sacrifice potential money to take a risk like reimagining their vision of the game. And honestly, though not agreeing wholly on simply not doing something because of money, in this case I think it is an important decision to try to cater to an audience they know they have. I love all facets of Destiny and if any one of them were lost or delegated to permanent obscurity, I would quickly lose interest. Our community needs to realize that we are not all asking for the same thing and that Bungie should some how compensate for this. Separation of PvE and PvP (and Gambit!) balance could allow all players to give constructive criticism without potentially being shut down simply by the premise of “Oh it nerfs a good gun in another place,” or the opposite; it buffs an already good gun somewhere else. I don’t expect it in this game, but if Destiny 3 continues to try to have such a diversity of gamemodes, they should strive to be more than just a “jack of all trades, master of none.” So instead of rejecting all of each other’s ideas because we think they’ll harm our own personal experience, let’s ask Bungie to allow us to present our ideas without this risk. It truly undermines ALL facets of the game and ALL of our collective feedback. Let’s make Destiny a great experience for everyone! Edit: Grammar, because I’m a freak for perfect grammar. Will probably edit for grammar again so don’t be surprised. 😂

I really don’t know how hard this would be, but PVP/PVE should be nerfed/balanced separately

Exactly it’s PVE game overall , go play call of duty for pvp lol