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Bearbeitet von cycofreak3:
12/31/2018 12:17:22 PM
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If nova warp needs a nerf, so does blade barrage.
Ya know what? -blam!- this, I give up.
Hunter mains know whats best. Let's nerf the voidwalker again despite blade barrage being an instant 0 skill, 0 effort counter to everything in the entire game.
While we're at it lets give titan and warlock a blade barrage of their own and just change it slightly plus their own shards and then we'll all have a perfect and balanced panic super and there's no need for roaming supers anymore because the panic super kills everything anyway.
You all win. -blam!- it. I don't care, the game can stay boring and hunters everywhere will rejoice at yet another year of easy -blam!-ing supers. I'm done arguing just to be countered with, "but it's one and done" because that means that BB is fine and nova bomb being buffed will totally make it just as good.
Oh and the arguments that compare BB to nova bomb and thundercrash keep on coming. What don't you people get about the fact that there is NO comparison. Look at the -blam!-ing statistics people! Why the -blam!- is blade barrage used over the nova bomb and thundercrash if they're the -blam!-ing same skill level and effectiveness?
There's nothing to compare! The Blade barrage is simply superior. It requires less thought than any super in the game, you don't need to aim at all and there is no risk, the armor you get is so high that very little can kill you and if by some miracle you are killed, you probably didn't use the super so you get it back on spawn.
Nova bombs can kill the user just as easily if not more easily than the target. Thundercrash is harder to use effectively in smaller spaces. Blade barrage works everywhere, small space, open space, whatever. -blam!- me, people are so ignorant.
I'm out.
Edit: how the -blam!- is this trending? I'm getting more gate filled comments and shit than not... Welp, keep that rage fueled conversation going peeps, I'll check back again in a few days. Oh and happy new year and all that crap
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2 AntwortenOP is correct Nova warp is not a problem the nerfs that they are gonna hit it with will most likely make it no longer a viable option for high tiers of play BB on the other hand is the single biggest crutch in the game insta kill no counterplay super that refreshes itself with the use of a single exotic anyone that makes the argument "costs you an exotic slot" doesn't understand that the opportunity cost of using Shards of Galanor is 0 because it is the single best thing you can be doing, there isn't any other real option that compares to it so that isn't a real argument the argument that Nova warp can kill a team then cross the map and kill them again is impossible. No warlock can cover any of the maps that fast to kill a whole team twice without some serious luck. You may be able to kill the same person twice but that is just due to the sub par spawn system in the game shards on the other hand can, quite literally, wipe a team on one end of the map, refresh itself, then run to the other side and do it again. On more than one occasion I have witnessed stacked teams have 2 or 3 hunters with BB just spawn camp and kill 3-4 people with shards then have their buddy do the same on the other side of the map and repeat until the game ends Some changes need to be made, especially to shards of galanor. But for starters you should no longer have the daggers do an additional explosion once hitting the ground that can kill someone from 100% HP. Make it so that if they somehow miss a super as easy to hit as shards that they get punished for it. Give it a real windup time, like nova bomb give the animation about a .75 to 1 second windup time so people can actually dodge it. Third would be to just change shards of galanor entirely, no more refunding super energy on any exotics in PvP ever, the mechanic is fundamentally flawed and always results in problems. Same thing for spectral blades but the only real problems with that super is that you buffed the damage reduction to be WAY to high and didn't nerf Gwinsin vest hard enough after fixing the bug. Hunters are pretty quickly pulling away from the other 2 classes as the standout go to option for PvP and it isn't because of any other reason than their supers are super low skill floor abilities that allow you to get tons of free kills every time you use them and with the use of exotics last longer and are up more frequently than all the other supers. this isn't a buff everything else issue either both Spectral Blades and BB make PvP unfun and making it so that other people get to run around in supers more frequently isn't going to fix the fact they are unfun. Just nerf them and get it over with
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BB is a one and done super. Nova warp can clear out 3+ people and still have enough energy to teleport all the way to where the previous victims spawns and get another 3 piece. Both supers guarentee a kill, but nova warp can get more with how overly efficient the energy cost is.
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Tether for the win
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Lol piss off you guys always whine for hunters bb is fine on its own idc if they nerf or buff any of your other class hunter will find its way to shut y’all down 👊👊
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Bearbeitet von Post Nut Clarity: 12/28/2018 9:48:57 PMBlade Barrage is the prime example of why balancing PvP and PvE need to be separate. Bungie will probably nerf the regen on Shards of Galanor and while they're at it nerf the shit out of it in PvE aswell. That would be so unwise. In general there is an excess of supers in a single match. With the super mods and regen exotics nowadays it's just less fun to play PvP.
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1 AntwortenDisagree with nerfs for any supers.. no super should be nerfed.. buff the lesser supers instead
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1 AntwortenIn a British accent. “And here we see the nerfherders in their natural habitat crying for changes to be made to a video game because they died in it.”
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15 AntwortenI think badass gaming put it best, “remember just because something kills you doesn’t make it OP!”
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3 AntwortenThis super does exactly what it is supposed to do. Shards may need to be looked at in PvP, athough I would hate to see a nerf in PvE as they would no longer be worth using.
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4 AntwortenBearbeitet von Corrick II: 12/28/2018 9:05:07 PMNothing needs a nerf. Yeah, it sucks dying in Crucible but supers are literally the only abilities that make you feel powerful anymore. Anyone complaining about a BB team wipe needs to stop grouping up and making an easy target. If supers keep getting nerfed because someone didn’t like dying from them we might as well be playing COD.
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KingJulesshe/her - 5/4/2026 12:52:41 AM
I don’t think nova needs a nerf. I honestly don’t mind getting killed by supers at all. It’s a cool super to have, especially during strikes. I only play as hunter, so I don’t know how good it really is. If they buff the titan a little bit and the warlock, then it will be pretty balanced. -
1 AntwortenNo. They should buff Novabomb, the original shutdown super. It's far weaker than it was in D1, and we don't have the perks like Annihilate and Vortex Mastery to enhance them. Both Cataclysm and Vortex Novabomb need a huge buff to be on par with Blade Barrage, or to be completely replaced with Lance and Shatter. We need the old Voidwalker back instead of nerfing another super in retaliation to our new one getting nerfed, or we ask them to fix Novawarp in a way that won't render it underpowered.
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The problem with Nova Warp is that it was advertised as this kinda glass cannon roaming super where you have to bob and weave til you get to a prime detonation location. The reality is you just tank damage and chase players while killing with a nova bomb sized blast radius . . . but its a roaming super. I think it needs a decent reduction in damage resistance requiring the user to utilize the warp movement.
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7 AntwortenNova warp isn’t even that op considering the fact that hunters can kill any super in the game with a panic button and the get to use spectral blades for legit a quarter of a match even with the nerf to giwin vest. If they nerf nova warp, they NEED to nerf or adjust spectral blades and blade barrage.
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This game takes no skill m8. Thats why shits so easy right now
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This game takes no skill m8. Thats why shita so easy right now
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The difference between NW and BB is one is a one and down super that needs you to take up a exotic slot to get more out of it. The only way youll get multi kills is the same way you'll get multis with nova bomb and thundercrash, waiting for people to group up. While the other doesnt need a exotic and can wipe a whole team not once but twice in one super activation due to up time, roaming and blast radius. Saying GG is a shutdown super is like saying every single roaming super is a shutdown super. And yeah technically every super is a shutdown but I'm guessing your term is aimed more towards one and done massive damage you can panic activate against a super rushing you, which GG doesn't.
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The main super that kills me is thundercrash, I can avoid a blade barrage or headshot a Nova warp or any other super. But that dang thundercrash just keeps getting me XD.
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Bearbeitet von IronMaiden: 12/28/2018 8:01:03 PMduration of nova wrap needs a nerf and the power of it needs a buff blade barrage is okay but the armour piece needs a change
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If BB is already strong and both SB and AS got buffed + Hunter Exotics are way better than Warlock Exotics, why does NW need a nerf? lol. This sounds like yet another "nerf X and buff Y" so that Y becomes the new Meta. Why can't they either buff X without nerfing Y, or nerf X without buffing Y?
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See You making statements that are completely wrong shows you are far too inexperienced to be making this post. [quote]50 tracking knives with enough damage behind them to insta kill if a single one hits?[/quote] The blade barrage has 2 volleys of 6 knives, which results in 12 knives. Each knife does not have enough damage to kill a guardian. [spoiler]ill just throw in that blade barrage is a one time use super[/spoiler]
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2 AntwortenDon't compare nw and bb. They're equally trash. And if you're any good or... Not completely blind, you can easily kill a bb before it gets used. All you people crying over bb and nw and not forgotten and Luna's Howl... ...u mad cus u bad
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1 AntwortenNothing needs to be nerfed. Maybe the architects.
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Ehhhh BB is a one time use shutdown. Where nova warp is a roaming shutdown. The only fixed warp needs is to not go through walls and a small reduction to AoE. All the super talk would be moot if energy weapons did more damage to players in their super (when Bungie first announced the new weapon system way back when).
