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10/22/2018 11:11:23 PM
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Current State of Crucible

I’m gonna try to keep it brief, as I’m 21 hours without sleep (and yes, it is my fault. This triple valor isn’t around forever). In order to take advantage of the Triple Valor on its last day here, I decided that Rumble would be a good place to go, as you win as long as your in the top three, so your streak will stay with you. It’s disgusting sweaty, and aggravating. Every single player I run into uses either a Luna’s Howl, a Not Forgotten, or a Bygones. The rest? Just damn shotguns. I’ve been killed more today by shotguns than in the past month of quickplay combined. Luna’s has a far, FAR too superior advantage over the other weapons available. It outguns all other hand cannons by an entire bullet, and the only way to keep it down is with a proper shotgun rush, or getting the drop on them and killing them before they can react. And yes, I’ve both beaten and gotten destroyed by them today. Shotguns have taken over the Crucible faster than even I could have imagined, which is sad to say, as many of us saw this coming anyway. In all my games today, I’ve seen maybe 3 snipers, a handful of fusions, and then SHOTGUNS AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE. I’ve run into the same problems in quickplay, but of course, that’s when you also run into the pub-stomping teams. That’s for another day. Now, for my questions: 1) Are you a fan of the Crucible right now? If so why? If not, why? 2) Do you think we’ll need to see tweaks to specific weapons or classes? (Think of the top of the meta, and whichever super you’d like to mention). 3) Does a weapon as strong and arguably broken like Luna belong in the Crucible? (It doesn’t really give you a chance unless your assailant can’t land a shot). Let’s try to keep it civil, no childish arguing please. Thank you.

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  • [quote]Now, for my questions: 1) Are you a fan of the Crucible right now? If so why? If not, why? 2) Do you think we’ll need to see tweaks to specific weapons or classes? (Think of the top of the meta, and whichever super you’d like to mention). 3) Does a weapon as strong and arguably broken like Luna belong in the Crucible? (It doesn’t really give you a chance unless your assailant can’t land a shot). [/quote] 1) Yes, I am. It reminds me of D1, where Felwinter's Lie reigned over the Crucible. Thing is, I rarely play the meta. I try to find ways to counter it, such as using sidearms or fusion rifles (I'm currently using "The Wizard Rebuke", the fusion from IB in Y1). 2) Yes, I do. I main a warlock, and I think the new void super is too dominant in the Crucible. Thing is, it is not OP, its just a bit stronger than the rest. I might reduce the size of the "explosions", for example. Also, Fusion Rifles are too inconsistent, and you can only 1-burst kill a Guardian if it has a high impact. Low-impact Fusions almost never kills in 1-burst. I would tweak it to increase the damage, and to put them into a more consistent state. Scout Rifles also need some love. I almost never see them in Crucible anymore (except for Jade Rabbit or Mida, but even they are scarce). Buffing the damage or decreasing the flinch could be some changes I would do. 3) I don't think Luna is that OP. It has potential to kill a Guardian faster, sure, but so does High-Impact Pulses (2-burst), if you land all your headshots correctly. For the average player, Luna will be difficult to master. See, I don't own a Luna, but on Rumble I usually outgunned Luna's users with my West of Sunfall 7 (HC with the same impact as Luna). Not Forgotten is so much stronger than Luna, and it is almost impossible to outgun someone using it (since who own the Not Forgotten are only the best players of Destiny... and some rich guys who paid for it).

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      [quote]Now, for my questions: 1) Are you a fan of the Crucible right now? If so why? If not, why? 2) Do you think we’ll need to see tweaks to specific weapons or classes? (Think of the top of the meta, and whichever super you’d like to mention). 3) Does a weapon as strong and arguably broken like Luna belong in the Crucible? (It doesn’t really give you a chance unless your assailant can’t land a shot).[/quote] 1) I think power advantage needs to stay out of Crucible. At the very least, the playing field needs to be even. It's ruined Banner if you ask me. 2) 390 RPM pulse rifles need to be brought more in line with other pulse rifles in terms of the critical hit requirement for optimal kill times. They are way too forgiving now. I thought they were in a good spot before 2.0 in terms of ttk and forgiveness but the buff just reduced the skill requirement too much. Also I think 180 RPM scout rifles and 140 hand cannons need another look. 180 scouts should be a consistent 2 head+2 body to kill optimally and 140 hand cannons should reliably 2 crit+1 body regardless of opponent resiliency. High impact scout rifles and hand cannons should also get a stability buff. 3) Luna seems overpowered but I don't have it so I'm not going to go there and recommend changes with something I don't have experience using.

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      • I got outgunned by the luna’s howl a lot when I grinded for the broadsword in rumble. Annoying, but not uncounterable. Luna’s howl has an average range stat, which you can use to your advantage and counter

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      • Lunas is fine. The quest was so miserable to do. Also try Lunas at a distance, see how that will go

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        • With you on the Luna’s. Too unbalanced.

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          • Use telesto against them

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          • PvP is absolutely trash. All shotgun play and no real gun fights. So boring and trashy.

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          • I played 25 rumble matches this weekend and I was the only person not using a shotgun in every match.

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            • I’m enjoying crucible right now (despite Redrix’s grind burnout). I do think that shotguns are used a lot to much but I can’t blame people for using a weapon that guarantees a one hit kill. The thing is I don’t have a solution for the problem. Maybe reduce ammo in shotguns for crucible. I don’t know. I do know that I have been killed by shotguns more than any other weapon the past few days.

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