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10/2/2018 12:46:38 PM
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Sleeper isn't your problem.
Not knowing how to make proper use of cover, and play open-world PVP is your problem.
Datto put out a very good video called "7 Tips..." (IIRC). Its an excellent primer on how to play Gambit well. I agree with almost everything he says....because I've been here saying the same things.
...and no he doesn't claim that Sleeper is overpowered. He correctly described it as ANNOYING.
TLDR: Gambit is a game based on competitive co-op PVE....and open-world PVP. The arenas are large and open, so combat can take place at VERY long ranges. The arenas promote and reward ambush tactics. If you don't make good use of cover on defense....and advancting INTO cover while Invading you will die over and over and over again.
...and it will be YOUR fault. Not "overpowered weapons".
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Yeah but the invader has wallhacks. The weapon has a huge hitbox.
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The weapon no longer has a "huge hit box", and the invader has only 30 seconds to create as much chaos as he can going up against FOUR opponents.
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Agreed. It's annoying, but like shotguns in crucible, it can be dealt with.
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I agree. Not OP, just cheap and annoying.
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In PVP? Perhaps. The problem is that all the other heavy weapons in the game are underpowered in comparison to it wher boss damage is concerned. So people who would rather PVP with something else, aren't willing to give up the damage that it does in PVE.
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Totally agreed. I hate that PVE gets affected by it whenever there is a nerf.
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Datto cried about lots of OP stuff. Datto sucks.
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Bearbeitet von TheArtist: 10/2/2018 4:26:38 PMNot relevant to THIS conversation. He's right about THIS issue. But like every other human being, he isn't always right. The weapon can be easily countered with thoughtful play.
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The problem is indeed not sleeper. It is the 24/7 wallhacks. If they remove the wallhacks then we would be fine.
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“Wallhacks” is legit just seeing people’s names and notes. No player outlines. And it doesn’t tell you if they’re behind a wall or not too.
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I’m glad one persons opinion, and not the collective group is where all your info comes from. Clearly if a majority community base is complaining maybe it’s an issue? Maybe there is something to all the complaining? Who knows, but I am glad that YouTube person cracked the code
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Bearbeitet von TheArtist: 10/2/2018 4:22:03 PM1. The majority isn't complaining. 2. The truth is not a DEMOCRACY....and is not up for majority vote even IF the majority was complaining. The fact is that if you make smart use of cover, and know when to prioritize PVP over PVE....Gambit becomes a very fun game....and Sleeper basically becomes a non-issue. The fact is that Sleeper is a very PUNISHING testor of how good your use of cover is...your situational awareness.....and how good you are at managing sightlines in a PVP environment. If you have those skills, you will be a very HARD target to anyone running around with sleeper....and to any INvader in general. If you dont'....you will die over, and over and over again until you FIGURE OUT to stop standing out in the open...and to not IGNORE an Invader until he opens fire. Because I'm telling you. Even if Bungie were foolish enough to BAN Sleeper from Gambit....that wouldn't solve the problem of those complaining. The next most efficient weapon (Whisper of the Worm) would simply take its place...and the SAME people would be back here bitching because they'll STILL be dying because they lack the necessary PVP skills for the game.
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exactly!
