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8/30/2018 6:42:00 AM
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Guys, this meta has been out for like 2 days. It's only going be be here for a week before we get new weapons. So we're playing with weapons that aren't really meant for this sandbox. I don't like the shotgunning either and have been salty in this meta but it's a one week TRIAL of the sandbox with year one builds / armor / weapons. If you don't like it, take the week off. If you want to try to get better, play it and figure out what works best. But at least give it a few weeks into Forsaken before you start going all nuts about it. Yes, it's not as fun for me and others but that's how it is with every meta. Some love it, some hate it. But it pretty much always changes.
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  • Ah, see, I didn't know about any of that. I'm slightly confused, so I keep hearing "sandbox", would you mind explaining what it means in this context?

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  • It's the PVP environment. So how much damage weapons do, how their perks work, crit damage, movement speed, jump height, etc. So we're in a new environment but we don't have the weapons, perks, masterworks, abilities, supers, etc that will be here next week with forsaken. Not to mention, it appears that a lot of things are bugged in V2.0.0. So they will either be fixed next week or will be worked on in the near future. So this really is a temp environment that is going to change big time when forsaken hits next week. Yes, there are many problems with the new meta but I think Bungie is going to take our feedback into account for things like ammo economy, etc. The key is not to get upset over it, but to provide viable feedback that they can take action on. Look for bugs and things that aren't working correctly and provide that feedback along with suggestions that might improve the game. I was tilted as hell the first few PVP matches until I learned that my HC's were bugged. Stopped using them and went to pulse rifles and did better. Still working on countering shotguns but that's just how it is in a shotgun meta. They can't please everyone and luckily the sandbox changes over time.

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  • Soooo, pretty much, the coding in the pvp system (the environment?) was in the update and this week is pretty much going to tell them what does and doesn't need tweaking from different stats it comes up with?

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  • It's an ongoing process but yes, that's basically how it works. Now, some of the stuff we're seeing has to be unintended, so that might throw some things off. But yeah, a lot of times, things they think will happen and things they test don't add up once the public gets their hands on it. So they are always looking for unintended results and adjusting as needed. Sometimes they let em go for a while (matchmaking being broken in the last version), etc. But yeah, whenever they update the sandbox, things get changed up and some things get busted. But my main point isn't so much that the sandbox needs work, it's just that the entire game is changing next week in regards to all the stuff we'll be using. So this week is a bad time to judge how PVP is working since we don't have all the new stuff.

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