The constant changing of the game is the issue when it comes to weapons among other things. Destiny originally was being created to expand over time. Once y1 took place with all the changes that were unnecessary led this game to be in the state it is now. Changes are happening again, and changes are happening with D3. The changes that are being made don't work for a game like this and that is a fact. IMO It doesn't have a loot system that has an incentive, that has a foundation to work with because it's constantly changed and has been for 4 years now. I don't understand that logic and don't want to. Mainly due to the fact that (common sense says you stick with one system that works) and build from there. It's not brain surgery, yet this company is making things harder for themselves as well as the gamers. I don't care what update is coming because that update with the new DLC has way too may concern's because of the changes and this companies actions so far this entire year that have not been pleasant, to say the least. IMO Bungie really needs to stop constantly changing the game. It's doing it more harm than anything else. Stick with a plan and work from there and actually listen to the feedback from the player base. I don't care what anyone says. This listening to fake people that sit on a comp all day looking to get people to subscribe is pure nonsense, and the "community summit" was one of the most disrespectful things this company pulled so far using them fake people as bait to try to get gamers to come back. [b]They are not the entire player base and their "opinion" shouldn't outweigh the rest of the player base[/b] IMO raids should have been set up if anything at all, exactly how D1 raids were when it came to rewarding gamers. Luke Smith among whoever is the cause of the poor decision that was made with primary elemental. Instead of using his brain and work with the sandbox, you know, because they have a job for some dumb reason. His pathetic solution as always is to remove things from the game. That's top-notch talent if you ask me.

My biggest gripe with raid weapons after elemental primaries were removed was that they never truly replaced the raid primaries elemental burn with anything that had the same universal utility. Vision of Confluence was a solid weapon on a base level, but the burn put it over the edge because demolishing shields is useful in everything. If I do hard content, I want rewards that justify the effort. One of the biggest mistakes Bungie made was taking away a beloved part of the game and not replacing it with something equally as good. I don't raid for shaders, I raid for loot, and to flex on non-raiders, but that's a separate issue. Bungie probably isn't going to go back on the elemental primary rework, but they need to do something to make the raid weapons worth it.

Not only are The raid weapons shit, the raids are hot carbage!

You forgot about WotM. Had excellent raid weapons and raid exotic. As far as D2 goes though, took me from an avid weekly raider to nada. Not even worth loading up the raid here.

Some people (including myself) liked the raid rewards being a level above the rest. Others don't, unfortunately for those of us that did like it that way, that includes the developer. Luke Smith wanted to promote gun diversity and here I am in his diverse world constantly using the same guns anyways. If another game comes out that captures Destiny's play-ability but treats the gear as more of an RPG progression/tiered type, I'll be a happy camper. I don't have any hope left of Bungie going back to how things were.

I miss my vision of confluence and my Fatebringer.

I'm pretty sure fatebringer's defining quality wasn't it's arc damage.

I miss the scout rifle from vog it was so overpowered

Some were crap. Kings fall and wotm both had good weapons come out of it. I'm sorry but a worthwhile grind isn't running the same thing hundreds of time for a small chance to get a good weapon. A friend of mine ran vog multiple times and never got a fatebringer. Rng is not a grind.... It is luck. Seriously, how is running the same thing hundreds of times considered fun?

VoC, og Black Hammer and Ghorn on a solar nightfall! I get hard just thinking about it.

let’s get real here, the entire catalog of weapons in this game are lackluster, boring, and unimaginative.

while i do like the look of the leviathan weapons they all should have dropped in the leviathan raid Eow and SoS should have had their own weapon sets, The rolls however are the problem, not even the whole "Elemental primary thing" the guns rolls were in general Bad Nothing making them worth using over things you can get in the base game, I mean they gave trials weapons there own exclusive slide perks in season one, they could have done much better with the perks for them.

They don't even have perks that deal more damage to Cabal unlike D1 raid weapons... (VOG weapons dealing more damage to Oracles for example) Pfft!