What left the gamer base are those who will defend Bungie without exception, some new players and some few veterans who are casual players now. It's a shame to see how far Bungie has fallen.

You’ll probably be back in September

I would never buy a PC game, that was your first mistake. Sorry PC people, I like the stability of a console.

You aren't flying an airplane. So you don't need to announce your departure.

i'm not coming back that's what they all say

RIOT!

[quote]I don't want a response; your opinion may differ.[/quote]You'll get reponses whether you want them or not. It's the nature of a discussion forum. [quote]- D2 is a zero-effort re-skin of D1.[/quote]Not exactly. The Engine is the same, sure, and they reused a lot of cut-content to make D2, but there's a lot that changed. Mostly for the negative, but it still took man-hours and effort. [quote]- Bungie is just extorting loyal players. Eververse Engrams, unobtainable item sets.[/quote]Extortion is only if you were forced to pay. The only extortion was when Bungie locked people out of the raid and Nightfalls if you didnt buy CoO, but they ended up reverting that. As for unobtainable item sets, I assume you're talking about the season-exclusives like Optimacy and Omega Mechanos armor, along with the ghosts like Cosmos and Fire Victorious. This is a legitimate complaint and one of my biggest gripes. You cant play the game as your own pace if you want that gear: you have to grind constantly to get it or it'll eventually be gone. [quote]- Most anti-social game with zero communication ability. No chat, nothing, not even a clan-search ffs[/quote] Clan-search is available on the website, sort of, but it's not implemented well. As for communication.... well, PC has a text chat now, not that anyone uses it. [quote]- I'm a 346 competent player, I got in PvE. I did a load of PvP too, but it's lame. Raid clans via the website (which is nothing more than a message board) wont' take me. I therefore have zero chance to level up and do end-game. They only take capped players.[/quote] You can level up by doing the weekly milestones for powerful gear. You'll level up much slower if you cant get into a raid or nightfall group, but you can still matchmake for heroic strikes and crucible, and you can do the weekly flashpoint solo. It's what I do, since my clan's quit the game and I hate raiding. [quote]- Strikes. I have no way of playing them, like the 50% of D1 players who also never bothered. Guided strikes, utter bollocks, just another way to get ignored.[/quote]Not true at all. You can matchmake for the Heroics. [quote] - Can't even get into strikes; what is the point in staying if the end-game content is inaccessible due to no real-time in-game fire-team search?[/quote]Again, you can matchmake for the heroics. Nightfalls aren't worth doing anymore except for the milestone and the unique drop, because they're actually a lower power level (270, I think) than the Heroics (350) [quote]- Let me make the comms problem and utter isolation really easy. Your hosting on battle.net you -blam!-ing dullards. Use it.[/quote] Battle.net is really for Blizzard games. Just look at the launcher sometime: All of Bliz's games are grouped together and get much better integration. BLOPS 4 and Destiny are pinned at the bottom and get little more than launch functions. They're only on Battle.net because Activision wanted to leverage their existing assets instead of using another host like Steam, but Blizzard's not going to create the same level of Battle.net support for games that are not theirs. [quote]- Technical issues:[/quote]cant help you with any of these [quote]- PvP: - Weapons. It's impossible to tell from one day to the next what will work.[/quote] spend 5 minutes looking around this forum and see what's being complained about. There's your meta for the week. Right now it seems to be Graviton Lance and Vigilence Wing. The Colony is also quite the frustration. Old standbys like Antiope, Uriels and Nameless Midnight still seem be up there though. There is some variety. [quote]- There are people cheating the crap out of having their power-weapons/nades and rockets up all the time. From 20 seconds into the game. Mine proc once usually. When you're in a game with people doing it, they'll get 35-40 kills and it's really obvious dying in a barrage of power-skills without landing a shot on them, even if you can find a gun that works.[/quote]Bungie does not do anything about cheaters, especially Trials cheaters. We've known this for years, complained about it for years, and they do nothing. You just have to bear with it, or not play PVP at all. Is it a dead game? No, not really, but it's on life support. Is it a good game? Not really: it's barely Okay. Is it as good as it could be? Not by a Thousand-Yard-Stare long-shot. They say the fall expansion is what will save the game. It'll be the vehicle Bungie uses to deliver on all their promises to fix thigns and make things better. Too late for you though, it seems. Too late for me too.

Wait Wait, as i agree with you with most points, i have to call you out on some bullshit. 1: "Eververse Engrams, unobtainable item sets" - [b]What sets are unobtainable again? because EVERY set in this game is very easy to get, so not sure what your on about. [/b]2: "Therefore have zero chance to level up and do end-game" [b]i dont know how we are still going through this 4 years later... USE LFG! i see everyday people posting up for raids that dont need max level players, i know joining noob groups is painful but guess what? we where all there once..[/b] 3: "Strikes. I have no way of playing them" [b]Dude just match make the damn things, NIghtfalls on the other hands, USE LFG! (befriend people you find on LFG) (i do think there should be matchmaking for nightfalls though. [/b]4: "Weapons. It's impossible to tell from one day to the next what will work" [b]Im sorry what are you even talking about? My Better Devils works the same EVERY DAY. [/b]5: "There are people cheating the crap out of having their power-weapons/nades and rockets up all the time" [b]You do realise we have had the "Go Fast" update, which makes heavy spawn alot faster, grenades cool down quicker. [/b] Alot of the stuff which makes "destiny 2 dead" is yourself, lol.