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Escalation Toxicity

I just had the most toxic experience of my life, whilst trying to do escalation. I don't have many friends online at the same time and over the last two weeks have grinded my ass up to light 360 on all 3 characters and just spent about an hour or so waiting for a full 9 people to pop up so I could attempt escalation. Alas people showed up and we were at 7 when I invited another friend. Then I started getting messages asking me to leave, then tried tricking me into joining there fireteam so they could kick me. Beat the crap out of my guardian you know. The norm for toxic players. They said light 360 was to low and I would die to much, but id attempted it when there were only four of us and hadn't died once I had a higher survivability than all of them and with darci out I was doing decent damage. Honestly its put me on edge. Like I said my friends have all sorts of weird time jobs so I can't do I raid, well I can but due to my own personal issues I would much rather only talk with people I know, so you know escalation would have been perfect, no communication needed just straight forward grinding. I know this doesn't happen very often but its disheartening to know that it even happens at all. Any body else have any bad experiences similar? How do you deal with it? [spoiler]Moderator edit: This thread has been moved to #Feedback forum so that other Destiny players can weigh in.  [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139533839/0/0] See Cozmo's thread here[/url] for more information about the #Feedback tag and its uses. Feel free to private message the moderator who moved your post, link to topic for further clarification about why this topic was moved.[/spoiler]
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  • Thats when you hope you are using a titan and then use bubble as they are rocket firing. Do this on repeat and enjoy it greatly lol.

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    • If they acted that way about it, just don't leave, let them do whatever they want, doesn't effect you the least bit, equip a good dance emote Tell them good luck matchmaking in another instance 😂

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    • In all fairness, they where only trying to do it themselfs using the 9-man strat, they wanted you to leave so they could get there friends in and actually get it done, It really does take some communication its not just all shooting, 360 is not "too low" but you are only just high enough to do any damage to the last boss.. You said you tried it with 4 of you? i guarrentee you didnt reach lvl 7, which is the only level these "toxic" players where worried about. I do the same with my friends, we ask the person if they can please leave, and explain why, usually people just do as we say and leave so we can get on with it, I have done it 7 times now and every time we ask someone to leave, or for them to invite one of my friends to the lobby they do, im starting to think these "toxic" players asked to you leave and you ignored them, because there is no match making people are forced to do it this way we have to rely on other guardians such as yourself to help us get it sorted, they where NOT being toxic, they just wanted to get started on their 9-man, which you where stopping them.

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    • "i know this doesn't happen often" New flash, most of the community is actually this toxic.

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    • Speaking of toxic players.....I had a guy in the heroic strike playlist yesterday grab the glowing ball, during the new psion strike, and just hold it. He was jumping all around the node you have to put it in. I actually had to leave the strike; that's how long I waited for this douche.

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    • We hear your feedback and are listening!

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      • Had it happen to my self wanted to do the hive summoning public event. Then a group of 5 or so showed up. Spammed the hell out of me with invites and messages. Shooting me and not even participating in the going public event. I offered to help no they just wanted me to invite those friends and boot me out. Left mars and got some serious toxic messages tell I blocked them.

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        • Oh boy. This is why we can't have nice things. Some shitsacks will just find a way to turn anything into a source of grief. These people were massive assholes. Anyone defending this kind of behavior is a massive asshole too. This is a public space, no one has more rights to it than anyone else. There is no "mooching". There is no "taking someone's spot". It's [i]public[/i]; it's how it works. The event is designed to be taken on by randos working together. Right now, no one is leveled enough for this to work, but it's by design. No one should expect this thing to be easy on the 2nd week. This 9 players thing is an exploit and not the intended way to beat this. If you can set it up with some help from randos, count your blessings. This is a bonus, not something you should expect. If I was asked nicely, I'd oblige. I'd even invite their friends, give up fireteam lead and leave with a nice "good luck!". No big deal. [i]However[/i], if I got [i]any[/i] hint of rudeness, I would make it my mission to ruin it for those cunts. Because entitled little shits need to be taught consequences. Be nice, be rewarded. Be a douchebag, watch me run in circles as I rubber-band my controller and go watch a movie.

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          • I heard some people on a Destiny podcast asking why people wouldn't be cool with handing over their fireteam and leaving. Really? So you want me to help you finish end game content, but I don't get the chance at the rewards?

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            • Tell them to take there elitism assholes to the raid. You were there first it’s a public place.

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              • 😂🤣...... D2 = Lame.......

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              • this type of problem has been around since year 1 of Destiny 1 'Must have 'insert name of meta boss killer',Must be maxed light, Must Know what your doing, No squeakers etc..' It's elitism, elitism and toxic behavior at its unbearable worst

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                • I'd just tell them to -blam!- off. I also have no problems with carrying on conversations with total strangers. Working retail does that to you.

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                • I block em all and those damn Fortnite requests.

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                • Had almost same issue but Xbox core services were having issues so I couldn't read or send messages or except chat and pty invites this resulted in some verbal abuse that I didn't see till this morning. This is a bigger problem than bungie realises and should be taken seriously as this is just yet another form of cyber bullying it's far from just everyday troll bull. This will take main stream as their are more immature idiots attracted the game now who just see their own time as the only time that matters. If I could of read the messages, sure I would of joined or even left as there was only 2 players from the clan who actually asked nicely. The toxic members actually looked me up on tracker I believe and started to insult my progress lmao which is stupid as I only got the game at the end of season 2. Any way, the point is as someone who has dealt with mental health problems and seen how this kind of bullying can effect people, this-on a bad day could of had some very different results for them and I would of been the one getting into trouble these idiots are keyboard warriors who feel safe to do and say as they please because they think no one can hold them accountable. Wrong. These people are adults, men with families these were not children just being kids. BUNGIE you need to address this as this will be known as escalation protocol for the WRONG reasons.

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                • And this is why i want more single player activities in the game.

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                • Personally i don't like the fact that there are people who are acting like that, Escalation protocol , hell the fact that people get this twisted over a game is baffling Ive gotten to wave three with randoms we didnt need to message each other we just went in and got shit done Frankly id rather play trials and get my ass handed to me, at least i would learn something by observing the enemy players

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                • Assholes are everywhere, i remember in d1 in vog we would get booted all the time to make room for friends. Thats why i went your route, always play with people i know. Activities are aupposed to be hard, so when the tension rises, i know the guys i play with are not going to start being assholes.

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                • Bearbeitet von Mar: 5/21/2018 8:17:55 PM
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                  I feel like if bungie had not of put a hard stop brick wall at 345 on normal progression this would not be near as bad as it is. Personally i think they should of instead made the 1st cap at 355 (with mods) and then heroic strikes / crucible play get you up to 360 with legendary gear, and after 360 only raids / trails / nightfall and milestones get you from 360 to level cap it would of been ALOT better. Currently the hard cap at 345 means even on heroic strikes you are at a kind of bad disavantage, the raid lair might as well be inaccessible and finishing EP is actually impossible because of the enemies becoming immune. If the brick wall they forced you to hit was around 350 you could at least do heroic strikes without dying in 2 shots to get higher level and then at least participate in all this stuff that is "end game" even if you are still at a disadvantage it becomes possible to try. I feel like the activities themselves are in a fine spot, but bungie had a strategy for slowing progression that sounded good on a paper and didn't work as well as they thought it would. Because of this progression grinds to a halt at 345 and it is up to luck to get higher than maybe 348 in the same week you hit 345 (due to possible duplicates wasting powerful engram upgrades; 5 pair of 350 pants don't really increase your light level). Because of this elitism and toxicity is back in full effect just like back in D1 when you couldn't do PoE without having literally all the best gear in the game because no one would let you play or when you couldn't do even old raids without having max end game gear and its causing all the same problems it did back then. Its a problem that could be fixed, but the question is will they do it before it gets worse... I don't understand why people get so insane about stuff like this, you don't have to be a douche bag and a giant raging moron just to get something done. Heck, even if its about getting to the max level asap (which i don't understand) at the very least you could not be horrible about it and ruin the game for everyone else. I will never get why the majority of people in destiny (at least that i've ran into) default to douche bag 99% of the time when trying to get others to assist them or are asked for help.

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                • Lol I just don’t understand why these douches don’t just gather 7 ppl instead of 9 and ask 2 blueberries to play WITH them instead of demanding they inv their friends then gtfo. Seems more reasonable to me.

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                  • Same thing happened to me. I just hung around did patrols. -blam!- folks like that.

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                  • I had a similar situation happen to me. I got a random party invite when I was exploring mars, and the people in that party wanted me to invite one of them and make them fireteam leader. After I did that, they politely asked me to leave and I did. Afterwards, they sent me a couple friend requests and said that I could invite them if I ever need help with anything.

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                  • I've oddly enough this week had it go both ways. On the negative end I had a player this week messaging me to leave every 15 minutes (which of course meant even though I was done with the area I was staying. There were two people nothing was stopping them from leaving instead) But then just the other day I was playing on my third character a hunter I barely use and I started get a couple messages, I was trying to guess what they would trash me in but instead it was a team that were actually just being nice and saying my gear looked sick. I leave the menu and lo and behold they're taking selfies with my hunter and couldn't have been nicer. Moral of my long rant, yes there's awful people out there, but it's not everyone, some people are genuinely just nice. I know it's also not the norm but I've joined guided games a half dozen times as well and , for me, they all turned out to be positive experiences. It's not everyone, have hope.

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                    • You do not have to justify yourself or your friends and their time schedules! The game has created a divide with its implementations! That’s enough for Bungie to sort the mess out as I can’t see this argument going away now even though it’s been hear since the birth off Destiny! Making a divide creates a divide; Bungie creates the toxicity and the divide and it’s down to them to make peace! Games boring anyway!

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                      • This game is designed for people who play 24/7...

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                      • Bearbeitet von U12070628: 5/19/2018 6:24:42 PM
                        The escalation protocol event is awful, but you just ran into toxic elitists that’s all. The matchmaking really needs to be fixed for this. And ignore the trolls saying you’re in the wrong, I blame bungie for bad design.

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