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4/14/2018 9:49:46 PM
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Why were we charged full price for an incomplete game?
Most developers only charge gamers $20 to purchase and play their game while it’s a work in progress. After the game is finished then it is sold at full retail price. Why does bungie continually sell incomplete games at full retail price? Then continue to charge for content that they should have been included in the complete game.
Activision has loaned you tens of millions of dollars to develop these games. Not to mention all the money the Halo game’s made. What could you have possibly waisted all that cash on that you need to so blatantly rip off your customers and release unfinished games at full retail price?
Spending too much money on cocaine and hookers or is it all the malted hops and bong resin interfering with your decision making?
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#destiny2
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63 AntwortenWhen you are dealing with a persistent world game like an MMO? There is no such thing as a "complete" game. That is an obsolete notion that is a throwback to the days when devleopers didn't have the ability to continually update, patch and evolve a game. These games are not fixed entities. They are services that evolve and change over time. My question to you, is why do you think that $60 entitles you to a game that provides with an endless font of content, so that you can play for hours and hours and hours every day....for months and months and months..... ...and not run out of things to do? You were sold a base game that gave you about 15-20 hours of campaign (if you didnt' skip the Adventures).....and about another 20-30 hours of original end-game content and loot items to pursue. Plus fleshed out online multiplayer. What did you think you money entitled you to?
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Short answer? Bungie(and other developers) is pushing the idea of "games as a service" in which you have to buy into a game($60 upfront) and then pay extra to get the full experience(DLC, micro transactions,etc...)
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3 AntwortenThe Solution: Don’t pay full price for any game that hasn’t been out for a few months. Make them EARN our money with high quality, meaningful content that’s largely free of bugs and glitches. Rent a game for a weekend. See if you love it. If not, you can say you tried it, and you’re out $8 for the experience. We hold all of the power here; we just need to exercise some -blam!-ing restraint when it comes to the shiny hype.
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Coke, hookers and bong resin.
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That’s just the growing trend these days.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von kris_tunetso: 4/16/2018 9:44:12 PMMost games these days run about $60 base, because that is what the market has shown it will tolerate. In my opinion, no game is worth $60 with the exception of large-scale self-contained games like Witcher 3, Fallout and Skyrim. Jim Sterling did a bit on this some time back and made some good points. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcebekI9F7g]See attached video[/url]. It's long, but thorough. Guild wars 2, a persistent MMO, was $60 when it launched. WoW is down to around $20, but it's also been out for eternity. It's also free to play up to lvl 20. Your assertion that [quote]Most developers only charge gamers $20 to purchase and play their game while it’s a work in progress.[/quote] is an interesting one. I'd like to know what games you're talking about, because I've not run into a single mainstream, big-title game that didn't cost $60 or more. They're either free with an aggressive microstransction scheme, like Warframe and Star Trek Online, or they're full-priced. Some have cheap and/or free DLCs, but even WIP games like Star Citizen still cost something like $55 to get into.
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1 AntwortenWhy were we dumb enough to buy it? Remember when the beta came out and Bungie said that they were using an old system.....haha good times
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How could somebody possibly consider destiny 2 an incomplete game? Ive played incomplete games before, and while destiny 2 has its flaws it’s far from being an incomplete game.
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Yeah, this game sucks
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1 AntwortenBecause it worked for D1.
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Microtransactions. The new money maker and focus for Devs. Plain and simple.
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Because we're living in a time when companies put out a game that is technically passable and fill the rest of it out with dlc a few months later. I'd argue because some of the deadlines that publishers make are pretty ridiculous and game are a lot more advanced and require more people and whatnot to work on now then they did in the past. Given some track records of games people say are complete and worth your money, they typically have Dev times of over 3-5yrs where as a majority of games get pushed out every 2-3 years. If Bungie truely did crank out D1 and D2 in under 16 months (according to some articles) then for what they managed to give us, I'd say that's pretty impressive. Hopefully D3 gets the full 3yr bake Activision seems to like and we get an amazing product.
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5 AntwortenBearbeitet von Lady Lena: 1/19/2019 9:56:31 AM[EDIT] I removed my reply because it was really stupid D2 had a good campaign and the shittyest endgame ever D1 was so much better and forsaken fixed everything
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Yeah, this game sucks.
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Being friendly about it might help push your point. But you aren’t wrong. This game released with so little to actually do end game wise (you know, that point in the game where you spend almost all of your time) nothing to get excited over and it being so drastically different pvp wise it isn’t the same style of game. They’ve added so much already and are adding a lot more but the game will be wildly different from vanilla. Have to buy 3 dlcs to get the actual finished game but yea. Definitely not buying d3 with how little they learned after 3 years of d1.
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This is a dang good question.
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You bought the game only trust alone. That is a you problem.
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Because we actually wanted to play it.
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1 Antworteni blame the bong resin
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Bearbeitet von Lyrro: 4/16/2018 8:43:38 PMAs a wise, bearded man once said, "If I fired up the video now and showed you the emotes you would throw money at the screen." Now, I could be missing something in translation since I'm not as enlightened as he, but the rough translation of this is, "You're a dimwit, we could pretty much do anything and you would give us your money." ... Wait, he wasn't a wise-man, that was just some self absorbed douche bag that I'm thinking of.
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6 AntwortenWhen a game needs updates to fix a game, said updates should be free. Destiny's major needed updates have always been DLC that you have to buy.
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Bearbeitet von Jeebs: 4/16/2018 6:10:20 PMYou could ask the same of a wow expansion, when they release you get a little part the beginning you then get drip fed the rest through updates. I put it this way Destiny is not incomplete but the loot systems and progression systems are incompatible, a game with a great deal of potential endgame activity's and no reason to replay them much due to poor loot depth & allocation also way to much focus on cosmetics. Other than the above the games pretty solid they just messed up with how we progress in endgame activities and the depth of loot.
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4 AntwortenBungie fanboys: “Whoa, you wanted a complete game for full price? You’re so entitled. Either keep playing or leave.”
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67 AntwortenHow many hours do you put value at? 60 100 200 You've had 250 plus so in my book you have little to whinge about.
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You have 246 hours of play time. You haven't played since Dec. So, you racked up 246 hours in about 4 months. The game must not have been that incomplete. Also, why are you here complaining when you don't even play anymore?
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Because that is their business model, and people are dumb enough to fall for it again and again.
