Before I make my point, I am fully aware of the appalling state of D2, just in case anyone thinks I am a 'desticle'. Now for my point: remove the term superstars. They are nothing of the sort. Datto is an arrogant elitist irritant and Gothalion is tied with Broman for biggest arse rashes in existence. Streamers are not superstars. They are leeches who make money off of a game they did not have a hand in creating. Furthermore the streamers are the reason so many unwanted nerfs occurred in D1. The sooner people stop putting these no-life fools on a pedestal the better. Also, FIX YOUR GODDAMNED GAME BUNGIE!!! There: venting completed.

I think the only YouTuber still covering D2 is mesasean. He is still praising this game and actually went live tonight to do the raid lair. I'm surprised when he does his facecam his nose isn't any browner. What us Bungie paying him? Hell if Bungie paid me what he is I'd cover D2 everyday also

I posted something similar to what Lethal is saying here, but with a little more context and actual links. Lethal, while I still think you're a lazy poster and a shit stirrer, I agree with you on this one, and you know I'm a Destiny fan. [b][u]My OP:[/u][/b] Now I know there's a large section of the community that don't give two hoots about YouTubers and Twitch streamers, but you better be damn sure Bungie does. These people are the free advertising Bungie counts on to build hype and influence people (in general). I'd bet the house on it that they're pretty chuffed when these proponents are singing praises about the Destiny franchise and Bungie as a whole... But do they care equally as much when the opposite occurs? I decided to poke around a bit, and have compiled a list of mainstream "popular" YouTubers that main Destiny as their subject matter. And boy... Well, I'll just leave these here. [b]MoreConsole[/b] https://youtu.be/OumXR2fGKrc [b]KackisHd[/b] https://youtu.be/C-DYXqa4SUs [b]Aztecross Gaming[/b] https://youtu.be/19VZFzRWdyk [spoiler]This one ^^^ is my favorite clip of the bunch[/spoiler] [b]DPJ[/b] https://youtu.be/1XLljFyEMvU [b]xHOUNDISHx[/b] https://youtu.be/Xr8lDW6Uu3Y [b]PlanetDestiny[/b] https://youtu.be/22TSBUa09h0 [b]Ms 5000 Watts[/b] https://youtu.be/Hx99rtPo5co There's more... Wayyyy more. Now, I'll finalize my post by clarifying that I am in no way influenced by YouTubers, or by Twitch streamers. If you're happy with D2, I'm happy for you, and not trying to say that you're wrong... I bought both Collector's Editions (the really expensive ones, especially here in Australia). All DLC's including season passes. I'm a perplexed fan right now with no reason to log in except when I feel the need to shoot aliens in the face for a few minutes... Because let's face it, not many games do the basics better than Destiny. But that's just it... It's [u][b]just[/b][/u] the basics. If Bungie doesn't care about those guys and their negative videos, then they certainly don't care about the paying customers who populate their world. I want Destiny to succeed... But I just can't see that happening right now. A [b]YEAR[/b] for these fixes... Fixes the TWAB skated around listing once again. They don't care about me as an individual. Or even millions of us, as they've clearly demonstrated... Because they already hit their contractual targets. But I'm seeing a similar theme in a lot of posts right now, and I never thought I'd feel the same way... But right now, Destiny 3 would be a hard pass based on how the show is being run. That [b]should[/b] be of concern to them if nothing else. These are just my feelings, and they don't represent the community as a whole.

Your point is what exactly. Youtuber helped ruin the game because they think they know something but in reality they don't know shit. It sucks that game developers use youtubers as beta testers instead of people who have real game experience. Cause if I was a a close beta testers for bungie or any other company half of the damn games out there wouldn't be a shit show of stupidity. Just saying.

Most of the players who defend the game have no good references/experiences playing different proper games from different genre’s/no looters/no RPG’s (no offense). The youtubers/streamers who keep such games alive ran out of excuses (beyond absurd situation). It’s un-blam!-ingbelievable how consistent Bungo has been with the low content/mediocre/shady/broken releases so far. And now you have those who have the nerve to bring up the whole “constructive criticism” rubbish ..... after eververse and XP throttling, no more room for positivity or communication (time for cold quick results). Why would you be “nice” to those who tried to screw you ?? Bizarre to say the least ..... Love, defend (for whatever reason) or hate the game. This franchise is dying and it won’t be remembered for ANY good reason.

Lol. Superstars. Lol some more

Why am I supposed to give a f**k about the opinions of these attention YouTube whores?

I’m just going to say this the streamers they only see their followers like this $.

Yet you are still here

Why don't you just leave ? All I ever see is your negative posts.

I've never understood why anyone at all cares about streamers in the first place. Maybe I'm just too old to get it.

Why do you little shit turds care what people with no jobs playing video games do?

Poor guys might have to get real jobs instead of asking for hype for a 2$ donations