Eververse is so big in Destiny 2 not because Activision wanted it to be... But because Bungie decided to "do a smaller or drip feed of smaller stuff and [...] to put up the Eververse and make money that way".
All that because "it's just hard to make content in general".
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/7nubxe/according_to_jason_schreier_of_kotaku_there_was_a/
This may not be true, but Jason Schreier is usually reliable when it comes to getting information on the gaming industry.
Now, I'd like to adress this "it's hard to make content" thing...
Final Fantasy XIV is an MMO that manages to release a major update every 3 months, with a team of about 274 people.
Warframe gets constant updates as well, with around 170 people working at Digital Extremes.
Latest numbers put the number of employees at Bungie at around 750.
So it's too hard for 750 people to create meaningful content, but not for 274 people or even 170?
I understand that mistakes were probably made during the game's development. From Bungie's statements, it seems that their engine is pretty hard to use, and I can understand that. There's also been a shift in the direction of the game 16 months before release, and that can also play on the lack of content. I get it.
But giving Eververse all the the focus because of it? Instead of trying to prove that you can actually get back on your feet? Instead of apologising and doing your best to make Destiny 2 as fun and filled with content as possible, you decide that Eververse is going to be your emergency exit? Your way to make money without actually making content, because "it's just hard to make content in general"?
Maybe this is all wrong. Maybe that's not what happened. But Bungie has been so opaque about everything in the last few years that there's no other source to trust. Everything that already happened, and now this, simply show that Bungie lost it's touch with the community. They live in their own bubble, far away from those they used to make games for.
Realistically, Eververse is making money. It's making [i]loads[/i] of money. From a business standpoint, it seems like their plan is working, at least for now. But if this is their vision for the Destiny franchise, maybe it isn't worth following anymore.
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2 AntwortenThat comparison on how other, some smaller, gaming companies are able to provide more content, sometimes free content too, while Bungie is off in a corner complaining that it's too hard makes me laugh every time. Bungie is just continuing to prove how incompetent they've become and how they're still trying to bank on their old reputation from their Halo days to succeed.
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21 AntwortenYou know what else is hard?
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How many people are being Eververse ? Among the 750 people ? At maximum 5. So no Eververse is not the issue at all.
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4 AntwortenBearbeitet von Aniond: 1/5/2018 8:02:25 AMUnless posted on this Website from an actually a Bungie employee. All you are doing is feeding lies. That guy has no proof. Just another youtuber who thinks he is important. If you ask me., Youtubers are cancer.
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That's why it doesn't make sense...either the report is wrong or Bungie has bigger problems with their game engine as we though . I mean this would mean that D2 will get less content than D1 in the first year
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4 AntwortenYou can't really compare destiny to warframe in regards to it's business model. The guys who make warframe [b]have[/b] to get content out the door as soon as possible because it's a free to play game. They need people to keep coming back so they can make money off the game. Bungie doesn't have as much of an urge to do that because destiny isn't free to play. Yes, they still need to keep pushing content out the doors, but not to the same degree as the people who make warframe
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7 AntwortenThis whole outrage is based on what ONE guy THINKS happened. I’m not saying it’s not true, but I mean...what if he made it up? He’s just some guy? Who might have some random source. I dunno. Everyone is just taking it like it’s the end all truth when that’s just really...like...his opinion man 😎
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6 AntwortenBearbeitet von PRINCE_ALI_1985: 1/5/2018 3:11:49 AMI don't believe the thing about D2 was scrapped and worked on from scratch mid development cycle. It seems like a dmg control to me. D2 was developed for the casual from the grounds up including eververse. To me Eververse is not the the problem it's this list below. 1- same old engine 2- reskin heaven 3-old exotic coming back as "content" 4-the abilities and supers nerfs 5- dumping down the game 6-new weapon system for PVE 7-vault space 8-no end game content 9-starting D2 as a new game but D1 stuff are coming back 10-power fantasy removed 11-glitches heaven for the raid (didn't play CoO so I don't know about the raid lair) 12-Prestige is just bullet sponge heaven + glitches 13-mod system is extremely underwhelming 14-The token-ised Destiny 15-clan raid/Trials engram + raid/trials tokens 16-prestige rewards is not worth the cheap difficulty implemented. 17-D2 was crated according to them to push content on a regular and consistent basis. That was a lie. 18-the slow game pace in both PVE and PVP. 19-the 4v4 PVP to all game mods and removing the option to choose which game type. I could go on but I only mentioned the problems not what I expected D2 to improve on. In a nutshell D2 is game created from the grounds up for casual including Eververse and everything else just reskin because we are lazy.
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11 AntwortenDon’t forget about the division I know it’s not perfect and is 2 yrs old. But Ubisoft stuck with it and provided a year of DLC at cost and the. Afterwards a year of free updates Now with the latest patch 1.8 this past December the game is what everyone always thought it could be and I hate to use the word but it may be in a perfect state. It’s a ton of fun, perhaps the most helpful/accepting community unless you want to go in the dark zone but the game is fun, challenging and gives you a ton of content. Also has many PVE/PVP options so there is ALWAYS something to do
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2 AntwortenQuote taken out of context. Move on people.
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Stop moaning! Do something!!! Twitter Facebook anything #boycottdestiny2 Make them listen
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Bungies plan is to make a lot of money and take over the world. They should concentrate on making a decent game world tbh.
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16 Antworten#Bungie is such a wh**e. #Activision is cancer. But the worst? #Bungie a-hole licking apologetic guardians.
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My response to the quote, then change industries
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Bungie are lazy no talent hacks. That's why making content is "too hard". Maybe they shouldn't have fired/forced out all the people with talent. Red flag comes up when most all original bungie employees are gone and you hear stories of corporate greed.
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But most of those 750 people are just shovelling coal into Bungie’s steam-powered game engine!
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Don't blame Bungie, they've always been overrated.
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This franchise isn't worth following anymore. Personally, I think more work went into unearthing Bungie's secrets then what was in the game. Move on to something else because Bungie will not fix what is the sole reason for this games existence. Which is -blam!- your wallets until there is nothing left.
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its not about the quantity or people but their quality , also about the companies philosophy , some want to trick people in spending money they regret later , some want to create a digital world they and their customers respect and enjoy
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[quote] So it's too hard for 750 people to create meaningful content, but not for 274 people or even 170?[/quote] Yes, especially when 1 is bragging about 2 coins and a Blue, 1 is ‘just talking’ and the remaining 748 and creating Eververse content...
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Laziness. Why put time into something when you can release a shit product and still make bank?
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2 AntwortenWell I've posted in a bunch of places, so I'll post here too... If they do not completely remove Eververse from destiny then I'm done with them forever, and I will do everything I can to keep friends and family away from them as well... They have turned into a bunch of greedy liars... #RemoveEververse/MicroTransactions https://youtu.be/7KFtKHunlAc https://youtu.be/P-vluSwpk4w https://youtu.be/u4R5eQ1vQEY https://youtu.be/zTsWd4M53JU https://youtu.be/4Q-i1wZwF0U https://youtu.be/FfS-spkX9ds https://youtu.be/6xURhmqwhpc https://youtu.be/IKWWcTkXqv8
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Lies...lies...lies THERE ARE GRINDING MECHANICS OUT THERE TO ATTAIN LOOT... NOT JUST CONTENT
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Yea, this game sucks!
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If its so hard to make content why make a game and hype up the upcoming "content" of there clearly isn't anything to hype up.
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Bearbeitet von RoseScythe: 1/5/2018 5:37:15 AMWhat kind of idiot debates the implication of a clickbait specialist's quote taken completely out of context?