so that's the one thing you take from my post? i said "even the raid wasn't available right out the gate" which is a true statement. Destiny released on the 9th. the raid was a few days later. as for VIRTUALLY(which i also said in my first response) everything else you batched about, it wasn't in the base game. they added it over time through various expansions. some of it was even free, which is likely to be the case this time around as well. if you want to quit playing, go for it. i'm sure you no-lifed your way to three 305's already (i have only just barely gotten ONE to 305 a few days ago because i have a life outside of destiny) so why are you still around?