Hey all - Pwnzor here, Kill Confirmed represent. Frankly I feel strange. The Destiny 2 experience seems for the first time ... hopeless. I have defended Bungie for 3 years on every fault. Now.. I just don't know.
After the Prestige Raid yesterday, I had one of those stare towards the sky with Crawling in my Skin playing as I question my commitment for the last 2 months - 3 years. For the first time ever, I feel Bungie has won - making their $60-110 buy in per player, and not giving the players what was so proudly delivered in the years of D1. Game is bought, with expansion pass, and the $10 starter Eververse package, and thats all they wanted it seems --- which makes sense from a business standpoint. Maximum profit for minimal effort.
I will still continue to play, mostly Trials and PVP cause I enjoy them a lot in any game, but there are real issues that need to be addressed.
[b]Quick Backstory (slight boasting to give you perspective):[/b]
I never thought I'd see the day where I made a post like this. I have played Destiny in its entirety since its inception in 2014. I was one of the first 50 Fireteams to complete Vault of Glass, Crotas End, POE 32/34/35 (night 1 of HOW), Kings Fall. I was the Worlds First Titan to Solo Crota (just google Mr Pwnzor). I have gone Flawless as many times as I've stepped into Trial to try. I have completed the D2 raid on 2 separate accounts over 15 times. I have collected every exotic in all versions of the game.
[u][b]NOW GETTING INTO THE ISSUES[/b][/u]
On a given forum, there is normally a complaint about a few things that could use tuning. When you isolate those issues, they can be defended by a majority of hardcore players. When you compile the list and really stare at it, it's really just not something I can defend.
If the technology and innovation for the below existed in D1, why have so many things have been left out of D2?
[b]"It's Crazy to Me” (My gripe with D2):[/b]
[1] It's crazy to me that Power Level doesnt matter
[2] It's crazy to me that they removed Weapon Rolls for replayability
[3] It's crazy to me that 90% of Guns are useless regardless of [2]
[4] It's crazy to me that Armor Ornaments no longer exist in game
[5] It's crazy to me that Sparrow collection comes entirely from Eververse
[6] It's crazy to me that Shader collection (less Trials and Raid) comes entirely from Eververse
[7] It's crazy to me that Ship collection comes entirely from Eververse
[8] It's crazy to me Token Systems become irrelevant after playing for 2 days
[9] It's crazy to me that there are no Strike Specific Loot Options
[10] It's crazy to me that there isn't a 6v6, 3v3, or additional PVP options
[11] It's crazy to me that there are no Secret Exotics or Easter Eggs (Oryx Basketball Court)
[12] It's crazy to me that Exotics look unique, feel unique, but do not act unique
[13] It's crazy to me that Max Power Level can be reached with never doing endgame
[14] It's crazy to me that there are no means of World Collection (Ghost, Calcified Frags, etc).
[15] It's crazy to me that Raids give no incentive for replay-ability (seriously - I used to farm the SH!T out of raids for Ships, Raid Coveted Exotics, Shaders, etc.)
[16] It's crazy to me that Vault of Glass is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan
[17] It's crazy to me that Crotas End is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan
[18] It's crazy to me that Kings Fall is 2 years older and yet seems 2 years ahead of Leviathan
[19] It's crazy to me that Hard Mode (and frankly Normal Mode) Raid are simply for Vanity
[20] It's crazy to me that Leviathan Raid is a Gameshow and not a Raid
[21] It's crazy to me that Factions do not always exist
[22] It's crazy to me that I have 2700 Legendary Shards and nothing to spend them on
[23] It's crazy to me that no one looks forward to Xur
[24] It's crazy to me that there is no arena like POE
[25] It's crazy to me that there is no open world arena like Court of Oryx/Archons Forge
[26] It's crazy to me that Sparrow Racing isnt in the game
[27] It's crazy to me that Sparrows cant do backflips like the Hotwheels Sparrow TDB model
[28] It's crazy to me that the meta leans towards 1 path 1 subclass for each class
[29] It's crazy to me that Planetary Materials are useless
[30] It's crazy to me that gear doesn't require being upgraded (took legit 3 seconds)
[31] It's crazy to me that Trials isnt even hard this year
[32] It's crazy to me that Public Events, Lost Sectors, Chest Looting, Adventures - are all useless
[33] It's crazy to me that this Game is so casual it has driven all of my best mates away
[34] It's crazy to me that I will continue to play with hopes of it becoming better
[35] It's crazy to me that I can even see myself playing a different game soon, only 1 month after release.
TL:DR
The technology and innovation for the above existed in D1, why have so many things have been left out of D2. If it is a means of having people pay for more Content, then that is just wrong. Bungie has made the game too casual in an attempt to cater to everyone. Even the casuals find it too casual.
Hoping there is a light at the end of this Dark, Dark tunnel. I can guarantee one thing - if there isn't a raid being release in the December DLC, alongside a complete loot system and token system overhaul, then this game is going to die.
EDIT: All - just wanted to say thank you all for reading and providing your comments, concerns, and criticisms. We have been top trending for almost 24 hours. Trials has been canceled since this post (crazy?). I will continue to play PVP but let’s hope bungie makes the little changes we would enjoy so much!
EDIT 2: Guardians, we’ve reach 1000 upvotes which is truly something else! I wish I could respond to all of your questions and concerns but there are just so many posts now. I’ll give some quick general responses here ——
I think pvp is fun and don’t have many issues (I know many do), I think selling old features as DLC is cash grabbing, I love destiny still just want the inherently needed changes, population should not be dropping this fast, any comprehensive MMORPG in history has expanded its world not shrunk it regardless if they dumbed it down, Trials being canceled makes me sad; all being said I am GOING TO STAY HOPEFUL.
[b]ADDITIONALLY -[/b] I have put a job application in with Bungie. As an avid video gamer and dedicated player since Halo 1, with professional experience in WOW and other titles, I feel I could help the team. I am a mechanical and control systems engineer doing project management in New York City currently. My background and professional experience certainly makes me qualified. This has always been a dream of mine - I haven’t given up yet, so maybe I can help. Hope Luke Smith or Cozmo see this and spread the word lol.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/10/19/bungie-and-activisions-badly-scheduled-deal-is-what-hurt-destiny-2-the-most/ Found this article and it makes a good point on why D2 is so bad right now.
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16 AntwortenBearbeitet von Jim Jeem James: 10/19/2017 10:51:31 PMYou completely no lifed this game And I mean no life it in it’s first month of being out And are now coming into the forum to cry about it D2 was always going to be easier just because it’s familiar and has matching characteristics to D1 D1 was new D1 had a hopeless grind for a lot of the loot I get it, increases the replay ability for you But for us Who don’t no life the -blam!- out of it It’s fine
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[quote]Hey all - Pwnzor here[/quote] Muted
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3 AntwortenI mean sure we spent money on this game but holy shit man it's not that big of a deal there's real life also. Don't catch so much feelings towards a game. And don't question how long I've played because I've been playing since D1 alpha. It's just whatever, there's other games and more important things to worry about.
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8 AntwortenIn any sequel you see lots of improvements. In this game you see the improvements when you load up Destiny 1.
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Bearbeitet von stevo: 10/20/2017 1:56:43 AMI have been overcome with greif today as my thick skin of denial was finally shed. I have Played for 3yrs with a fairly big clan. (25+) we have been through thick and thin battling for loot together. Yesterday six of us entered the long awaited prestige raid. At gauntlet we pretty quickly adjusted, becoming a well oiled machine that overcame the challenge but there was not much point, no new loot dropped for anyone. At pleasure gardens one of the team had read about the world first, and so we discovered something unbelievable, That the raid had no real loot to speak of. The drive died, it was almost surreal as we said our farewells and left party one by one, the destiny ride was over and we all felt it.
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3 AntwortenBearbeitet von Ez: 10/19/2017 9:54:10 PM[quote]1] It's crazy to me that Power Level doesn't matter[/quote] Yes, it's a ridiculous notion that you have to beat someone using superior skills, not superior gear or higher levels (as this only applies to pvp) [quote][2] It's crazy to me that they removed Weapon Rolls for replayability[/quote] It's crazy to the casuals how much time hardcore players spent getting that perfect roll that they'd likely never get because they didn't have the time or were unwilling to invest it. [quote][3] It's crazy to me that 90% of Guns are useless regardless of [2][/quote] 90% of the guns in D1 were useless depending on which meta existed at the time. [quote][4] It's crazy to me that Armor Ornaments no longer exist in game[/quote] I agree with you there. [quote][5] It's crazy to me that Sparrow collection comes entirely from Eververse[/quote] It's crazy to me that sparrows are that important to you -- or anyone for that matter. [quote][6] It's crazy to me that Shader collection (less Trials and Raid) comes entirely from Eververse[/quote] Don't forget -- they're also consumable now and required for each seperate piece/ [quote][7] It's crazy to me that Ship collection comes entirely from Eververse[/quote] See my answer to [5]. I mean, yea it's cool to have something unique, but it's basically only a loading screen. [quote][8] It's crazy to me Token Systems become irrelevant after playing for 2 days[/quote] I think that's a bit of an overexaggeration, but yea I see the point. [quote][9] It's crazy to me that there are no Strike Specific Loot Options[/quote] I don't get that.... [quote][10] It's crazy to me that there isn't a 6v6, 3v3, or additional PVP options[/quote] Agreed. Perhaps they saved that for later. [quote][11] It's crazy to me that there are no Secret Exotics or Easter Eggs (Oryx Basketball Court)[/quote] Important to the niche crowd. Most don't care. [quote][12] It's crazy to me that Exotics look unique, feel unique, but do not act unique[/quote] Yup [quote][13] It's crazy to me that Max Power Level can be reached with never doing endgame[/quote] Only if you're an elistist snowflake. Otherwise, who cares how other people accomplish things? [quote][14] It's crazy to me that there are no means of World Collection (Ghost, Calcified Frags, etc).[/quote] Again, most don't care. Was there even a single review where they discussed the quality of hidden fragments? [quote][15] It's crazy to me that Raids give no incentive for replay-ability (seriously - I used to farm the SH!T out of raids for Ships, Raid Coveted Exotics, Shaders, etc.)[/quote] You can still farm for raid shaders.... [quote][16] It's crazy to me that Vault of Glass is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan[/quote] Subjective. Many positive things have been said about Leviathan. I like it, but I would agree VoG was better. The token system and having to run through the underbelly (the underbelly was interesting for the first couple of times) for loot makes it more work than fun. [quote][17] It's crazy to me that Crotas End is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan[/quote] Subective. I thought after the initial wonder of complete darkness, the raid grew old quickly. [quote][18] It's crazy to me that Kings Fall is 2 years older and yet seems 2 years ahead of Leviathan[/quote] Subjective. Leviathan is more interesting to me, although the jump puzzles were cool. [quote][19] It's crazy to me that Hard Mode (and frankly Normal Mode) Raid are simply for Vanity[/quote] Ho hum. I don't disagree, but at the same time it's not a big deal to me eitherway. Can see your point. [quote][20] It's crazy to me that Leviathan Raid is a Gameshow and not a Raid[/quote] Subjective. Who cares? It's a fun raid. [quote][21] It's crazy to me that Factions do not always exist[/quote] Not a big thing, but can appreciate your point. [quote][22] It's crazy to me that I have 2700 Legendary Shards and nothing to spend them on[/quote] 100% agree... and I only have 900 Shards. You should get out more, lol. [quote][23] It's crazy to me that no one looks forward to Xur[/quote] If you looked forward to Xur in D1 you were the crazy one. [quote][24] It's crazy to me that there is no arena like POE[/quote] No one played it. [quote][25] It's crazy to me that there is no open world arena like Court of Oryx/Archons Forge[/quote] No one played it [quote][26] It's crazy to me that Sparrow Racing isnt in the game[/quote] A distraction, at best [quote][27] It's crazy to me that Sparrows cant do backflips like the Hotwheels Sparrow TDB model[/quote] yes. the game is a complete fail because I can't do backflips on a sparrow (I think it spend 10 min doing them in D1, then never used that sparrow again) [quote][28] It's crazy to me that the meta leans towards 1 path 1 subclass for each class[/quote] Yup. BORING. [quote][29] It's crazy to me that Planetary Materials are useless[/quote] Glad they are. Hated farming them. Kudos to Bungie for eliminating that tedium! [[quote]30] It's crazy to me that gear doesn't require being upgraded (took legit 3 seconds)[/quote] artificial time sink. [quote][31] It's crazy to me that Trials isnt even hard this year[/quote] I still can't get anyone (decent) to play with. [quote][32] It's crazy to me that Public Events, Lost Sectors, Chest Looting, Adventures - are all useless[/quote] Not ture. Only in endgame. [quote][33] It's crazy to me that this Game is so casual it has driven all of my best mates away[/quote] but it probably brought in 10 other for everyone who left. [quote][34] It's crazy to me that I will continue to play with hopes of it becoming better[/quote] I believe it will. Many of the good things in D1 didn't make it into D2 due to production schedule, so it's not unlikely they will make at least SOME changes. [quote][35] It's crazy to me that I can even see myself playing a different game soon, only 1 month after release.[/quote] Not to many, including me. I didn't forsake all games because I enjoyed Destiny (which, despite some obvious flaws, I did). I played other games on and off all through the years of Destiny. I just always came back. Variety is not a bad thing. No need to be obsessive about a SINGLE game.
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178 AntwortenBearbeitet von RavenousLD3341: 10/19/2017 8:39:52 PM[quote][1] It's crazy to me that Power Level doesnt matter[/quote] I does matter. Drop to 100 and do a nightfall. [quote][2] It's crazy to me that they removed Weapon Rolls for replayability[/quote] This was an RNG treadmill that didn't respect players... so it's a net positive change. [quote][3] It's crazy to me that 90% of Guns are useless regardless of [2][/quote] This is subjective. I bet all of us like a different set of guns. [quote][4] It's crazy to me that Armor Ornaments no longer exist in game[/quote] Oh... kinda a minor complaint, does this really make the game bad though? [quote][5] It's crazy to me that Sparrow collection comes entirely from Eververse[/quote] Ok... I'l agree here, they should show up in Cayde stashes as well. [quote][6] It's crazy to me that Shader collection (less Trials and Raid) comes entirely from Eververse[/quote] And every single other vendor in the game. They all can drop shaders, don't forget regional chests. [quote][7] It's crazy to me that Ship collection comes entirely from Eververse[/quote] These should be in Cayde chests as well. [quote][8] It's crazy to me Token Systems become irrelevant after playing for 2 days[/quote] Infusion makes this not true. You can always get something you don't own, there's still guns I'm waiting for. [quote][9] It's crazy to me that there are no Strike Specific Loot Options[/quote] Would be nice. [quote][10] It's crazy to me that there isn't a 6v6, 3v3, or additional PVP options[/quote] This is fine with me [quote][11] It's crazy to me that there are no Secret Exotics or Easter Eggs (Oryx Basketball Court[/quote] There are Easter Eggs. The Hardlight lore is actually a mock up of Steve Jobs iPhone announcement. [quote][12] It's crazy to me that Exotics look unique, feel unique, but do not act unique[/quote] They do. 1 example is Fighting Lion in the energy slot. Sweet Business having a massive magazine. [quote][13] It's crazy to me that Max Power Level can be reached with never doing endgame[/quote] This was a thing in Destiny 1... so....? [quote][14] It's crazy to me that there are no means of World Collection (Ghost, Calcified Frags, etc)[/quote] Each world has it's own armor and weapons and shaders... go collect those. [quote][15] It's crazy to me that Raids give no incentive for replay-ability (seriously - I used to farm the SH!T out of raids for Ships, Raid Coveted Exotics, Shaders, etc.)[/quote] Sure it does. It's super stingy with Raid specific gear. You won't get it all in 1 run. [quote][16] It's crazy to me that Vault of Glass is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan [17] It's crazy to me that Crotas End is 3 years older and yet seems 3 years ahead of Leviathan [18] It's crazy to me that Kings Fall is 2 years older and yet seems 2 years ahead of Leviathan[/quote] This is subjective. [quote][19] It's crazy to me that Hard Mode (and frankly Normal Mode) Raid are simply for Vanity[/quote] Didn't I just say it drops gear specific to the event? [quote][20] It's crazy to me that Leviathan Raid is a Gameshow and not a Raid[/quote] I think it's actually called a Raid in the director. Isn't it? [quote][21] It's crazy to me that Factions do not always exist[/quote] You can go talk to them right now. They are there, they just don't always give you gear. [quote][22] It's crazy to me that I have 2700 Legendary Shards and nothing to spend them on[/quote] Buy a bunch of shit from Xur and dismantle it, then use those things to get stuff from the gunsmith, to inturn make legendary mods. [quote][23] It's crazy to me that no one looks forward to Xur[/quote] I like him when he brings something I down already own, but he hasn't been relevant for end game players since TTK. [quote][24] It's crazy to me that there is no arena like POE [25] It's crazy to me that there is no open world arena like Court of Oryx/Archons Forge[/quote] You probably come here and complained that it wasn't a raid back in the day didn't ya? Also... who knows what's in the pipe it's only been a few weeks. [quote][26] It's crazy to me that Sparrow Racing isnt in the game[/quote] My how short your memory is. It was seasonal in Destiny 1. So we actually don't know if it's in Destiny 2. [quote][27] It's crazy to me that Sparrows cant do backflips like the Hotwheels Sparrow TDB model[/quote] That was actually a perk on sparrows in D1. It was widely available with the arrival of the first SRL in D1. So... wait? [quote][28] It's crazy to me that the meta leans towards 1 path 1 subclass for each class[/quote] It really doesn't. I'm sure we all have one we prefer, but I play them all. [quote][29] It's crazy to me that Planetary Materials are useless[/quote] Their use is to turn in for rep. [quote][30] It's crazy to me that gear doesn't require being upgraded (took legit 3 seconds)[/quote] We all just used motes of light on them anyway, so they removed a step. I don't see an issue here. Did you seriously want a pile of useless guns that you have to fire literally thousands of times to get them upgraded enough to accurately evaluate their usefullness. This was a positive change. [quote][31] It's crazy to me that Trials isnt even hard this year[/quote] It uses the exact same MM as before. It just throws fodder at high skill players. So ask for SBMM in trials like I do. [quote][32] It's crazy to me that Public Events, Lost Sectors, Chest Looting, Adventures - are all useless[/quote] They aren't. They can all drop an exotic engram. [quote][33] It's crazy to me that this Game is so casual it has driven all of my best mates away[/quote] Subjective again. [quote][34] It's crazy to me that I will continue to play with hopes of it becoming better[/quote] If you aren't having fun you shouldn't, don't you own anything else? [quote][35] It's crazy to me that I can even see myself playing a different game soon, only 1 month after release.[/quote] It's OK to be done. It doesn't make Destiny 2 bad. What I basically see is complaining that this game didn't include 1400 hours of content on day 1.
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36 AntwortenUnpopular opinion, I like Destiny 2, I know it's has faults and it's far from perfect, but I like it. I do think that there is a community wide overreaction to the game as it stands, with people claiming that the game is "ruined" and that bungie have "driven the series into the ground", but I like to have a bit more optimism when it comes to situations like this. Is Destiny 2 perfect? No. Can Destiny 2 be fixed? Yes. A fair amount of the issues in Destiny are issues that can be easily remedied. I hear the argument "They had 3 years to get it right!" and as a creative I can tell you that while you aren't wrong, there are also areas where I feel like the understanding of the process is lost to some. A fair amount of development time has to go to creating the world, going from concept to design to enemy, architecture has to be built, and that's not even going into making sure that the online components are functional. Am I excusing the lack of creature comforts? No. But I can understand why they weren't implemented since it seems like the focus was put more heavily on delivering a serviceable story and an accessible game over all rather than slapping a proverbial loot unicorn on the rump and telling us to chase after it, and I understand that it isn't the end of the world since I believe that Destiny 2 is and will be a good game.
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1 AntwortenAt this point, I don't care if the game is good or bad, I just want to see a dragon...
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1 AntwortenYou know what's crazy to me? Why you still play this shite
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1 AntwortenIt seems you are a bit crayz lul
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2 AntwortenAfter three years of playing Destiny. I bought Destiny 2. And then I proceeded to put in 1000 hours into it. And after that basement dwelling marathon, all I could come up was this shitpost. Applause?
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I’ll agree with the OP, so many facets of d2 seem so useless and white washed. I wanna continue playing, it’s hard when I see that 2 members of my clan out of 60 are the only ones playing. We’ve been transformed from hard core d1 players to casual d2 participants. This maybe what bungie wanted for long time devoted players to take a more casual approach to the game. Idk that’s what I’m getting from d2.
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I essentially agree with all of your points, but can we stop with these dumb melodramatic titles. Nobody cares about you being a "veteran" of a series that is only 3 years old so stop trying to put yourself and your opinions on a pedestal. Just post what you think, this whole "I never thought I would say this after 3 years with Destiny..." and "I'm a Destiny vet yada yada yada" is really cringey and a bit circle jerky. Stop whining about how you're a "vet" of this series and just point out what's wrong with it, being a "vet" means nothing other than you played the game a few years ago, this isn't some decade old MMO.
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Think I'm going to buy borderlands back again. Loot and shoot with funny characters. Better than this friendship collection game.
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3 full years of changes and tweaks in D1 that had at least the PVE content in the right place, but in D2 it's all undone and all of those options like not being able to choose your strikes outside of the 140 difficulty playlist, no replaying story missions (meditations are still drip fed to us so they don't count), no strike specific loot either, no bounties.. just a set of 3 locked challenges per location or activity each day so again there are no options to play with. Everything is static, you have no in game choices to make which after the first game which lasted 3 years, you'd expect those QoL improvements to be in the second game as standard, but no. Crucible is more of the same. The only time we get to make a choice is: Quickplay or Competitive - that's it! Want to play a specific mode like Clash? Tough shit! You gotta play Supremacy or Control for however many matches before that, which causes many players to quit. Then there's the gameplay: all that wonderful balance from having static rolls on weapons makes crucible a 3 or 4 match run before becoming so bored of everyone playing the exact same way, it loses any feeling of fun very very fast. D2 is all about noobs and super casuals. Bungie holds your hands all the way through. You don't have to think, you don't have to make choices, Bungie took all the options away so you don't have to use your brain to do anything, forget about having options, D2 is seriously dumbed down!!! They threw all of the first season's content out there by week 7, and without the layers of choice that should be there already, it's a bust. It's not about the quantity of content, there is plenty to do. It all looks very nice and sounds amazing, and there's enough to keep most busy all week, but there is no depth. Static rolls killed grinding for weapons, well that and the fact you'll have had every weapon available 20 times over and dismantled most of them by time you've played 50 hours. Tokens. Tokens are a nightmare. Only plus for the token system is that you can use all the tokens you just accrued on one character and then use them with an alt character. Only good thing about tokens. Nobody who has a modicum of intelligence that I've spoken to is asking for a fully immersive long running game to begin with, that's stupid. What people are frustrated about is the complete u-turn on all the positive changes in D1 and not implementing them in D2 from the start. What people are frustrated about is static rolls and all emphasis on balance taking a lot of the variations and fun out. People are frustrated because it's all dumbed down to cater for noobs and casuals. No collectibles, no grimoire, very little lore. The raid and Trials weapons are only fractionally better than their stock vendor counterparts, no more god tier end game weapons, and no more unique armour with unique perks. Subclasses are dumbed down to two options each. There are no involving choices. It's designed to hold their hands all the way. It's Destiny for Dummies. If it wasn't for the dedicated players keeping the servers busy through all of the content droughts, and of course the noobs who bought the bargain bin full game bundles later on, D1 would have been laying in the gutter. So, what do Bungie do for D2? Do they cater to all or one demographic over the over? We all know the answer to that. Dedicated, invested players bought D2 expecting a decent level of continuation of the better parts of D1 being added to a fresh innovative sequel. What did we get? We got a shallow, uninspired vanilla shell which caters to noobs in the Destiny universe and super casuals. 10 miles wide - 1 inch deep. Plenty of content. No grind. No choices. I had 7400+ hours, maximum grimoire, hundreds of raids, and everything else and was a beta and day 1 player in D1. Sure, that was over 3 years, but I genuinely can not see there being enough depth and immersion in D2 over 3 years to even scrape 1000 hours. It's a great game if you're that casual, you only play 2 hours a week, or if you hadn't played D1 at it's prime peak. It pains me to say just how apprehensive I am about the direction it's all heading in. I'm having a tough time seeing myself loading D2 up after these two dlc's (may as well try them seeing as they're bloody well paid for already).
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6 AntwortenBearbeitet von Iccotak: 10/20/2017 12:51:35 AMThe problem is that Destiny 2 has taken the franchise into becoming a game that I simply did not want. When Destiny was first being shown off we were promised a Large Shared World Shooter RPG. That was "Ancient Fantasy" + "Hard Science Fiction". Which is what Year 3 D1 was shaping up to be. In D2, We got a standard FPS Skill based shooter with PvP set as end-game. It is trying to satisfy the competitive shooters. Which is the opposite of why players stuck around for D1. That design choice does not work with Loot based games. You're fighting against human players in the Crucible and you're fighting an army of drones in PvE. What makes PvE fun is being a powerful badass what makes the Crucible fun is the competition and proving your better against a real person with access to the same weapons abilities. They're not the same and should not be balanced as such.
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I agree with a lot of what you said however i will like to oppose on a very important part. Why do you continue playing the game ? The PVP as you also mentioned is a watered down version which is not fun or engaging anymore. If you a PVP player first why don't you go play games that have PVP as their main focus , give you ranking , dedicated servers etc.. The reason iam stating this is Bungie and Activision cares about multiple things. 1. Sale numbers which generate revenue 2. Player stats 3. Dedicated hours from players You basically paid for the game and continue to give the stats they want to see. If you want to be heard , if you really care this game to improve , you basically have to stop giving them what they expect players to do. For past 3 years players supplied zillions of positive feedback and Bungie choose to throw them all out of the window and create a game no one asked for. Basically they don't listen to positive feedback. What they listened is casuals who hated grind and decided to quit game once story is finished. We basically have to do the exact same or else this game will never reach to the status majority of us hopes for. I personally stopped playing it 3 weeks ago. When i have desire to play Destiny i simply go back to Destiny 1 and do challenges like 2 manning Vog etc.. It is way more fun then playing this garbage new game.
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Yeah they really need some special op exotic weapons that -blam!- in pve and pvp to drop. Sure the vex in d1 was op at first and pvp but people ran the raid every week without missing one on all 3 chars to try get it. Also don't nerf weapons instead make other weapons slightly better. We also need more range of weapons to use in the crucible and maybe a weapons vendor that maybe makes you do quests and gives weapons in return. The lag in pvp is still annoying. I think if you are kicked from trials when you are winning it should allow you to rejoin without a loss on the card. Get servers please. Also we need the raid/triaps to drop unique and powerfull weapons that are better than normal weapons or why bother? The trials year 3 pulse rifle from d1 was great most of the time but d2 pulse is aids. Man i miss clever dragon and palindrome.
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I like how after you get up voted.. Over the past days you have changed your title and post lol
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Sounds like many narcissist players here, just like d1. Tell us all your achievements, then complain. To be honest with you, I don't give a f#@k! May I remind you that destiny is just a video game just like any other. You don't like it, play something else. Not going to miss you bud. We should all be complaining about bringing back the arcade games. Man, I miss putt putt golf!
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2 Antwortenit really is destiny 1.5 minus everything u mention above
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2 AntwortenI don’t agree with everything but I can agree that the game feels lacking. I know it is vanilla but it’s not even very fun anymore. I have been playing D1 crucible again and having a blast. Getting snipes and crazy multikills, having abilities like the super heroes that the Light has made us, and grinding for those PS exclusives on Xbox (finally).
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I agree man, personally, I can't accept how Bungie forgot half of Destiny 1's philosophies
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Bearbeitet von indielablp: 10/20/2017 2:58:55 AMWhat did Bungie do in 3 years!? Think about this deeply. All weapons are fixed and all armor is simply cosmetic with a copy and paste mobility, resilience and recovery stat. All vendors and all vendors for events from Vanguard, crucible to faction and Ib all have the cut and paste method of tokens and loot. The landscape is beautiful but not much different in terms of D1 geometry. No New enemies and slight variances of ai movement. No real true subclasses but tweeked ones. So many reskins and lackluster rolled weapons. Cooldowns and ability strength is awful. Ammo economy is awful.vMost weapons and exotic armor pieces are literally reskins of d1 but most have had there perks removed or dumbed down. The story was better then d1 simply because it was coherent and more cut scenes. Everything in this game has been simplified so much I can't really understand how this is the finished product of 3 years. D1 had so many more offerings in such unique ways and had loot that felt earned. We dont even have any secrets like d1 had, no black spindle type things. No strike specific loot and prestigious raid offers a FUKN ORNAMENT!! In d1 we got exclusive unique armor and weapons for the hardest content. There were secrets everywhere and very desirable loot at the end of it. We had so many perks in d1 and d2 feels like nothing but lackluster perks. There is so much wrong with D2 that I dont see a way back. Luke and bungie vocally are standing behind these cganges and think they delivered a game better then d1. Its really sad at this point and I too have defebded bungie all these years and am done with this game. I cant beleive the massive disconnect and the massive dissapoint d2 is. Destiny is long gone and I am devastated! All hope is lost for me and D2 just confirmed the unthinkable.