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10/15/2017 2:13:37 PM
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Destiny 2 cured my destiny addiction
I used to log on every. Single. Day to play d1 whether it was heroic strikes to kill some time or sinking an evening into the raid. Destiny 2 is the opposite i log on stare at the map and log off. I signed in today speedran the NF and felt literally no incentive to play any further.
I think the issue for me is multifaceted:
The weapons system change. Why though? The only reason i can see was to extend playtime buy stopping people burn bosses with snipers and rockets together. Pvp should not have been a factor in this change, however i fear it was the sole contributor
Token system... its -blam!-ing stupid if i run the raid i would like to rewarded in the raid not be given tokens to then pass on to some one else for a chance at a reward... wtf bungo.
Fixed rolls should have meant more weapons in general... nope same as d1 but no perk rolling allowed so no need to chase anything.
Pvp, i never did trials because it wasnt a mode i enjoyed, iron banner however was and the added level advantage (miniscule or not) felt worth it. Neither of d2's end game pvp modes have level advantage so whats special about them now? In b4 reskinned weapons and armour.
Level cap. Either ive played this game far too much or it is way to easy to hit level cap. Also level cap doesn't seem like it is anything more than an arbitrary number now. By level cap i mean 300 not 305 as there is no need to be 305 other than to say you are 305.
Raids. For this im only comparing VOG and levi because they are both the first raid releases for each title. Theres absolutely no comparison tbh VOG is a masterpiece in design and playability. It has multiple boss encounters and a sense of progression as you move through. Levi has one boss... one boss. We levelled up to 300 to face... one boss. Not only that the way that the (lets call them) trials set by calus switch each week which for me is a cop out. You can introduce variety without just changing the orders of tasks. Also having to redo each door is just tedious and repetitive and feels like bad design as it disrupts the flow of the game.
Story... why the -blam!- was ghaul even a thing. A waste of time if you ask me. We fought GODS in d1 literal GODS... who is ghaul except an albino Bane cosplayer that ate one too many subways. At no time was he a threat. Remember first seeing the oryx projection in taken king? So much better than this.
There are other more minor issues that i simply cba to type out
In conclusion im upset and spitting my dummy out because my favourite game seems to have been watered down into nothing and its showing no signs of life
Sad face and rant over
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#destiny2
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9 AntwortenThis is such an original thread. Probably the first one I have seen like this.
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1 AntwortenYeah man, I hear ya, same here. D2 just doesn't have it's claws in me like D1 (yet) but here's hoping it gets better, I trust that it will. I was hoping that we would pick up in D2 with all the benefits of the changes that took place during the evolution of D1, instead it's like a total reset and not a true sequel.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von Saad Omar Earth: 10/16/2017 1:21:18 AMThe ridiculous amount of repeats we get from engrams? I farmed 30+ Engrams from Saladin and have still to get an Autorifle, Leg or helmet for my Hunter. The loot system in this game isn't meant to be fair, it's meant to be broken so they can get people to unload ridiculous amounts of time on it without anything to show for it. I'm done grinding in this game. I'll get on to try the prestige raid and if that's as lame as I think it will be, I'm through. They purposefully got rid of the ability to buy the item you want with marks just so they can get you to grind like hell for a broken slot machine. Un-freakin-believable! Destiny effectively got me to give up on working towards anything in this game. I've wanted the Origin story and the Forward Path and after hundreds of engrams from Zavahla and Saladin, I can officially say I'm through with this. It has been hardly two months and all my friends have moved on from this game. And it's clear as daylight why they have done that. Before some genius says "Origin story can be gotten from completing 2 strikes", I got nameless midnight when I was trying to go up light levels. I'm not deleting my Warlock, Hunter or Titan (all of which are 305) just so I can replay the game for one auto. The point is, I'm done blaming RNG. I'm blaming the people designing the horrible RNG. It's somehow WORSE than D1, and I didn't think that was even possible.
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You literally wrote out everything I’ve been thinking. But left it a few key pvp things. 4v4 is trash. ‘Heavy’/power ammo is just people spam rotating it. Only one person gets heavy? WHY. I literally fight with my clan mates to see who’s gonna get heavy. It’s fu king retarded. Smaller maps. Boring. Deleted sniper lines, no point in even attempting to snipe. It’s (now) a game for casuals and passerby’s
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12 AntwortenBearbeitet von IWRSTLDSBEARONC_: 10/16/2017 12:23:02 AMHow about all of you losers go get a girlfriend and spend time with her.
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Destiny 2 is like t-ball where they don’t keep score and everyone gets participation trophies.
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Bearbeitet von bigCaseyy: 10/16/2017 6:25:14 AMWhen the addiction is cured past the point of ever wanting to do it again Imagine if nicotine and other drugs and alcohol were so terrible no one wanted to do them. Damn Destiny is on to something
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1 AntwortenSame same I put almost 4,000 hours into D1 and after 400 of this and 1k public events and a few days on the PS4 I cannot even bring myself to look at this game anymore. Sad days until something else comes about.
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1 AntwortenThe first time oryx projection visual and sound was amazing and IMHO can’t an wont ever be duplicated.
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Good. Now go outside.
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18 AntwortenI've heard the same from so many players. It's a pity Bungie don't seem to have got the message. The playing options are just so limited. and the rewards don't match the effort needed. Graphics and gameplay are good except that average players like me can't ever hope to compete Nightfall or the Raid. I'm sick of really good players being so smug telling me I'm not good enough. I KNOW I'M NOT. And that's where Bungie has let people like me down.
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I think after losing my flawless card this Saturday I'm done for a while. Huge PvP and pve player. Did all the raids and collected every ornament and went flawless on both games and all I needed was the damn helmet this week and I was on my last match and round. Two against me. I killed one and nearly had the last one for I had dumbass teammates that decided to activate the bomb so I was racing against time to dispatch two people while the bomb was at stake. And after losing what was mentally draining encounter in which in d1 I could've easily dispatched of those two morons I uninstalled it. I'm done for now. PvP has no incentive and pve is lacking it too. Its not the same white whale ideology and trials was the last thing I honestly logged on for but I think after wasting 6 hours and every time so close or had stacked teams of people in the top 500s I think I'm done for now. Could've used most of that time playing other games or working on other hobbies or movies literally PvP sucks if you have to go up against more than one person.
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It's so crazy. A year ago, a thread like this would have had a war going on in it between the destiny fan boys and the people who don't support it, but I've noticed that the tide has shifted majorly in the direction of unsupported. It makes me sad, really. Destiny was a game changer for me when it came out, and it managed to keep me hooked up until the end of RoI, but destiny 2? I don't know... I just can't see myself playing it for an extended time. I've found that I just completed all I wanted to complete, and I've moved on. Oh well, I guess. Bungie doesn't seem to want to make the effort to try and bridge the gap between them and their player base. On to bigger and better things, I suppose
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Well... I for one am thankful for Destiny 2 and for the hard work and time that the good people at Bungie have put into this game. If not for them and all they've done to this franchise in Destiny 2, I never would have downloaded and fallen in love with Warframe.
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After playing iron banner all week and only getting the gauntlets and cloak for my hunter but received 3 complete sets of errant knight gear. I've been reexamining my life choices.
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5 AntwortenOut of all the debate about D1 and it's issues and good and bad points, the best comment I ever read about D1 was "Destiny is as brilliant as it is broken" For me D2 is not broken, everything seems to work well except for some minor issues. Unfortunately D2 is also not brilliant. They have watered down all the things that kept my logging on and grinding and feeling good when I finally reached my goal. D2 has been made for the casual gamer. D1 was my favourite game, I put 2600+ hours into it, met some great people, had some awesome times. I did over 350 raids. I've done the new raid twice and don't care to do it again. I played trials religiously in D1, have no desire to play it in D2. The game is simply boring.
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4 AntwortenI agree with almost every point you made, except Ghaul. Personally, I enjoyed that our main villain had a personality. He had a presence, proving that size is not an issue with him. He was instantly a villain I loved to hate, especially since our encounter got personal. He kicked me from his ship. He regarded me like a piece of crap at the bottom of his shoe. It stirred hate from me, something I did NOT feel with Oryx. While Oryx was impressive, I never got any real emotional going after him. With that said, I feel like I only played Destiny 2 for the story campaign. I was under the impression that there was more to do after the story--and while there was--it didn't last long, and I ended up putting Destiny 2 down for other games, like Warframe. I really want to love Destiny 2, and I want to keep playing, but... why? It's depressing. What happened, Bungie? Was this your vision? You had this wonderful thing, with so much potential, but... what HAPPENED? Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the story campaign and all the adventure and quests. But where's the grind? The addicting gameplay? I WANT to waste hours into this. But there's literally no motive or reason to.
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Luke Smith says he is actually surprised that a "shocking number of players have cleared the campaign and hit the level cap, and are clearing end game content already" That sums up the void between the dev team's connection to their player base for me. They make the majority of content even more casual friendly, then are surprised that high numbers of players are basically moving on already because there is nothing to keep them coming back ie, replayability for those god roll weapons and the rest of it.
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I made a thread exactly like this a few days ago. I completely agree
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Agreed. The only thing that will kill Destiny 2 is Destiny 1.
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That sad part is a lot of the game is actually better than D1, but Luke Smith and his grind orientated bullshit idea of limiting literally everything while offering only the illusion of choice is the part that’s killing it. When only a handful of guns are good and those guns will never be better, why even bother?
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1 AntwortenWas a great game , now completely ruined
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A lot of d2 sucks , and I used to main d1 . Now I'm Bored and playing a free game off the psn store that's how much fun I'm Getting out of this game. Oh and yeah crucible is completely ruined 2 teams camping there arses off in scout rifle battles , good game bungie.
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Weapon system ruined it for me... content was never an issue for me even in D1... however if it's no longer fun to kill things than there's no pt in playing this game
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1 AntwortenWhile I do disagree with you on some minor things, I do agree that Destiny 2 was the "Destiny killer" that so many other games wanted to be. I never missed a nightfall, ran all the raids, logged in daily to get my D1 itch. Destiny 2 came out, and I was beyond excited. However, after that initial honeymoon phase, I've found myself simply not wanting to play. I look at the "Destiny 2" logo on my PS4, and all I feel is disappointment. A franchise that I love so dearly, and that I've put some much time into, is now something that I don't want to invest any more time in. I firmly believe that D2 will eventually be the game we expect it to be, it's just incredibly discouraging to see the exact same mistakes made again.
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1 AntwortenIt's sad in a way, but I'm also happy because now I can play some other great games!
