I've got limited space here, so rather than dissect my entire experience with the beta, beating the dead horse on a NUMBER of known issues that I believe have been fully fleshed out, I'm going to just to discuss the things that I think are most important to hammer home: First, while I believe the beta is quite possibly the worst thing I have ever seen from modern gaming (the animations from Mass Effect: Andromeda were at least amusing before they were fixed), I do have a couple of positive comments. Bungie's environmental design team, once again, hit it out of the park! They are quite literally the ONLY thing I consider about this company to be AAA+ quality. No matter whether it was the story mission or the strike, the world environments were amazing. And the strike itself, if you removed all of the spongy enemies and the spongie bosses, wasn't half bad. A little long for my taste, but it had its fun moments. [b]Now, the bad:[/b] 1. The weapons - globally, they felt terrible and REALLY weak. It took multiple shots to take down even average red-bar ads. The perks are watered down and unless it was a perk that effected your magazine size or DRASTICALLY effected shot rate, you didn't notice a big difference in performance. Even power weapon performance was comical. I shot Banner the Unbent about 14 times with my sniper, most of the shots being headshots, and it didn't move his health bar below half! Grenade launchers did little to no damage to the boss and were highly inaccurate. Fusion rifles didn't wow me, and shotgun wasn't even playable. I finally got my hands on a RL, but at that point, the beta had already shattered my resolve to try to go back into any activity to test it out. 2. The new loadout: Two primary weapon system SUCKS far more than even I could have imagined. I wasn't a fan of the system when they announced it at the reveal, and have railed on and on about it since that time, and often times I was criticized for judging something I hadn't tried yet. Well I have, and its even worse than I could have imagined. The new system is effectively a WORSE newb combo from Halo - use energy weapon to crack shields, switch to kinetic to finish him off. Except the newb combo was easy and quick to execute and was mostly an insta-kill, whereas in Destiny, you have to plink at the shielded enemy with multiple shots, then switch to your kinetic to whittle away at them some more. Even as a huge Halo fan, I gotta say - this is a poorly executed attempt at replicating that system. 3. Ammo economy: Was terrible. I may have seen more power weapon ammo than most people on here report, but it wasn't MUCH more. Often times, I'd never see a brick drop. And several times I ran out of either energy/kinetic, and was in serious danger to run out of ammo completely. 4. Ability/Super recharge: Again, slow. Bungie's already aware of this, but I doubt a good fix is possible. Armor perks reducing recharge time can only go so far because, due to the unified sandbox, it ALL has to be balanced for PVP - and we now see that PVP will be Bungie's ONLY priority. 5. New supers: They weren't even worth having IMO. They were better used to clear minions than they were to try to do DPS, and you got it so rarely that you might as well have been playing Battlefield 1. Having multiple abilities mapped to the same button is a bad idea in what can often be an action packed shooter. Often I did not use the ability I wanted to, and also wasted my party ability by sliding into cover and then unintentionally deploying it at the end of my slide. 6. Movement: does not feel smooth or natural. Feels very awkward, and ALL characters walk/run really slow. The jumps don't feel natural and often times, you feel like you are fighting your own character to get him to do what you want him to do. If your counting on exploration keeping people intrigued, this system is simply going to hinder their experience. I can't even get close to making jumps I KNOW I could make easily in D1. 7. Enemy health/armor: They're all bullet sponges, even the red-bar ads! Majors have become mini-bosses, and it is so painful to just chip away at the boss slowly with a primary/energy weapon. [b]Some suggestions and comments:[/b] It is clear to me that Destiny 2 was entirely remade for PVP, and mainly to try to get around having to fully separate PVE from PVP. And it's failed miserably. Bungie, do you realize that there are a lot o shooters out there that feature generic/standardized combat with no super powers and no incredible, high-tech weaponry? Battlefield, CoD, Halo, Gears, etc. If we wanted that kind of play, we would have been playing THOSE games. Instead, we wanted all the power weapons we had, we wanted the space magic in droves! That is the magic that made Destiny so fun and addicting in the first place. Now I'm aware that your under pressure from Sweaty-McDickface to start remove all those things from the game to make the game "more balanced and competitive" but you have effectively removed all of those things from a game PREDICATED on awesome weaponry and space magic. What do you think is going to keep players coming back? Pretty environments only take you so far. You can have space magic in PVE and PVP for those who love it and a bland PVP experience for Sweaty-McDickface if you want. [b]All you need to do is make ONE, maybe TWO PVP modes where you MUST use standardized gear, trickle is on permanently, and you have "MLG" versions of those maps so that heavy and special ammo doesn't spawn.[/b] THERE! Those who want a boring, primary-based PVP experience can have it. Everyone else can enjoy their space magic and power weapons and everyone's happy. [b]NO remake of the entire game necessary.[/b] You can call the new mode "Hardcore" mode and the weapon/armor pool for that/those modes can be balanced separately from everything else so what players like TripleWreck want will not have any impact on what the rest of the community wants. Secondly, even with a "hardcore" mode, it is clear you need to separate PVE from PVP. We came to this game for the PVE, not the PVP. I ditched Halo 4 to play Destiny 1 after all! So stop treating us like second or third-priority gamers. We pay the same money that PVP players do, and arguably, we bring in more revenue. PVE players are more likely to recruit new players to this game because PVE content is easier to teach/learn, so it is more accessible to new players. Sweaty-McDickface isn't going to recruit new players to this game - it will take a LONG time for new players to become competent players and assets in PVP. Finally, streamlining skills for the sake of PVP just doesn't work in this game. The advantage of keeping the old style perk tree would be to simply the control scheme, as the Captain America Shield for the sentinal could replace an under-utilized option, like the standard Ward of Dawn you first unlock (no armor/blessings of light). IMO, the "team ability" is just awkward and wasn't all that useful outside the titan's cover deployment - which was more effective in PVP than in PVE. I have so much more to say regarding this topic, but only so much space here, so I'll end with this: Bungie just needs to go back to the D1 system for both Skills and loadouts and separate PVE from PVP. Forget the idiots who say "but then its not a new game!" But even the Halo series has enough commonality between the games to feel familiar and at home, whether you pick up Halo CE or you pick up Halo 5. D2 isn't even the same game - its clearly just your average generic shooter with aliens.