Shotguns and High RoF Pulse.
I normally run Bad Juju, Susanoo, and whatever Heavy, but Bad Juju is in the same class as the OP Pulses, but can't compete with them. I love using it, but using a gun that has identical stats as the Hawksaw, it gets outgunned by one every time. But Hawksaw gets outgunned by Grasp/Clever Dragon type weapons.
As for shotguns.... Remember the time when Party Crasher +1 and Matador 64 were never brought back into Year 2 (as for the entire Year 1 arsenal) because they were too OP on range and DPS in the Crucible? Even when Shot Package got removed from the game, they were still OP as hell! Bringing back some old Year 1 weapons was a great idea at first, but bringing back ONLY THE OP weapons was a poor choice on your end, Bungie.
I hate to say it, but get rid of these shotguns. Or better yet, REMOVE RANGEFINDER from the game. We'd be saying the same thing about Shot Package if Rangefinder was removed instead.
You guys need to get back to the sandbox, or even play a few games in ACTUAL crucible against many of the players who use nothing more than what I've said. If you think it's still balanced, then I'll be back for Destiny 2. At least then, the game should be balanced like it was during the Alpha.
The Crucible is broken. Even with SBMM active. No one has variety anymore. And RoI has been out for just over a month. What a waste.
Edit 1:
I'm not part of the bandwagon. I'm opposite of the meta and always have been. And I do better than most people that are supporting the current BROKEN meta of shotguns and High RoF Pulse Rifles.
My current setup that I swap between games:
Primary
Auto Rifle: Doctrine of Passing - Haakon's Hatchet - Suros Regime - Monte Carlo
Pulse: Parthian Shot - Bad Juju - Hopscotch Pilgrim
Scout: Touch of Malice (yes I really do) - Hung Jury SR4 - Cryptic Dragon - Mida Multi-Tool
Hand Cannon: Lord High Fixer (god roll)
Special
Fusion Rifles: Susanoo - Ashraven's Flight - The Waiting - Saladin's Vigil
Sniper Rifles: Black Spindle (better than most) - Longbow - LDR - Stillpiercer - Hereafter - Defiance of Yasmin
Sidearms: Trespasser - Queen's Choice
Heavy
Anything really, but I skip heavy when it pops up.
Edit 2:
Can't make replies because someone reported one of my replies stating my reason against using meta weapons. Obviously someone doesn't like my opinion, like many of you, so I'm now just gonna let you guys cry out to me since I'm not some 8 year old boy who has his over-protective mom replying and reporting everyone for poor behavior and content.
So have fun complaining to me all. I could care less at this point.
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Go to destiny tracker and look at the usages stats, over 3 weeks clever dragon was most used, now it's back to before that iron banner. 6 or 7 primaries all used the same. Most diverse destiny has ever been
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https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/218811907/0/0 What meta?
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9 AntwortenSays he's not part of the meta Has equipped: Clever dragon Burning eye Mida
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4 AntwortenStfu about shotguns, sniper crybabies are annoying. Learn to counter shotgun abusers instead of whining and crying nerf to an inconsistent special that shoots blanks ( unfair ) in its kill range. Bad players won't be happy until shotguns aren't in the game anymore even though they make people MOVE around which is the most fun this game can be.
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Regardless of what bungie does, there will always be a meta.
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Bearbeitet von DTAKthatGuy: 11/29/2016 11:37:58 PMBungie, plz nerf the babies that post this cancer. Hell buff the shottys!
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Juggernaut is the problem
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No it's not broken, shotguns aren't broken your the same crybabay that wanted the messenger to get nerfed and everything that was fun to use. Sbmm is a cause to a stale meta since your getting matched with people similar skill so if you want to do decent and kind of have fun meta weapons are the choice. Using a slow rof auto would get your slapped and doing mad isn't fun.
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Buff shotguns
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2 AntwortenNo, shotguns are inconsistent. If you die by one, you got outplayed.
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Bearbeitet von Smough: 11/29/2016 8:58:20 PM-calls shotguns OP -opinion invalid
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2 AntwortenBearbeitet von TheArtist: 11/29/2016 12:20:13 PMSorry, you're part of the meta. Your weapon loadout (except ToM and Black Spindle) reads like a Crucible's Most Wanted list of the game's A++ to B+ weapons. Also, heavy ammo and the fight for map control for access to it, is a legitimate part of the game. It is there SPECIFICALLY to act as a "rubber band" mechanic to give teams that are losing a chance to shift the momentum of a match. A counter-balance to the half-dozen other "snowball" mechanics that are built into the game that allow teams that are winning additional advantage over the losing team. Lastly, shotguns are fine. In fact they've never been WEAKER in the history of the Crucible. The problem is that primaries have NEVER been weaker as well. Its time to stop nerfing things, and realize that its a SHOOTER...and you are going to DIE from SOMETHING. So its time to buff the game's primaries back to something reasonable...and put this game back into some sort of healthy balance.
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Nerf fusion rifles
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December update. Again too little too late.
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RF helps with 0,5m do thats too op ? For real gtfo[b][/b]
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2 AntwortenYeah shotties are better, but I can still snipe. Avoid corners and check your radar. Keep a good distance and have a good close-medium range primary (my auto works great for that)
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December update will fix that, the update will be revealed sometime during PlayStation Experience 2016
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10 AntwortenI feel your pain on shotguns as I refuse to use them out of principle- the reason shotguns are so used is because of small and narrow corridor type maps- I always trade with them by sticking a fusion grenade to their cheek- that's really the only counter I know to a charging shotgunner- good luck using any primary at close range and sniper rifles don't have the distance on half the maps- I snipe a lot and use the Gheleon artifact to keep an eye on the radar for rushing shotties- is there any other counter to aggressive shotgunners?
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2 AntwortenMeta is a made up word so people can feel good about losing. You are weak if you use this as your excuse to lose.
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It's not even that bad.
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Rangefinder? Really? That's what you are concerned about? 5%. Hilarious.
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1 AntwortenWhy did you write so much just to say, "Nerf clever dragon and matador?"
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1 Antworten"I'm opposite of the meta" *uses god roll Handcannon* Sorry sweetheart, I couldn't help but notice you "somehow" left out handcannons being part of this meta. Because TLW, Palindrome, Eyasluna and god roll handcannons are all over just as much as high rate pulse rifles. Nice try, but you are using part of the meta. #checkyourself #awkward
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Faak...another nerf post. Stop the nerfing!!
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1 AntwortenI hear all this Clever Dragon talk, go into Matchmaking.. 9+ Palindrones/Esylunas.. Go play in a tournament, Clever Dragon is barely used.. its only Handcannons for 90+%