https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plufryTtYvU&t=2469s Scroll to the middle part of the video. About "Technology/Matchmaking" TLDW: There is no perfect solution here. 1. People play with shitty internet that has no business in online gaming. Bungie can't fix that. 2. People have to share internet with other people. Bungie can't stop someone's little sister from streaming Netflix in the middle of your Crucible match. 3. People cheat. They yank network cables. They lag switch. They (D)Dos. Because they (in some warped way) think this is acceptable in online gaming. Bungie can't stop this without rewriting the game's entire networking engine. 4. Even if Bungie gives you exactly what you want, they may drive one (or more) OTHER players away. YOUR definition of "fun" is being allowed to beat up on players less skilled than you. Well I can tell you from personal experience that it is NOT FUN being on the receiving end of that kind of beat down. a. I took that kind of beating when I tried to learn how to play BF4....and I lasted under it for a week. Shooter gamer may put up with that kind of abuse....but the MMO and RPG gamers who make up a LARGE part of this game's player base, aren't. They'll quit and never step foot back into PvP. b. I took a similar beating Sunday night when someone let a pro loose in a lobby with a group of Top 25% players. He casually threw down a 4.5 in a lobby full of people wearing Trials gear. I personally lost EVERY SINGLE 1v1 encounter with him. I did not seem him lose a 1v1 the entire match. In fact, I saw him shoot himself out of several 1v2s and 1v3s. While HE might have been having fun and "relaxing". Having to play against him ----because the of massive skill gap----was frustrating and pointless. Bottomline, the game is the way it is, because it gives the best experience to the LARGEST number of people...and is the least SHITTY option for the community as a whole.

I made a 1 minute video showing some class A bullshit that is SBMM. I'm sure 99% of you can relate. I'm done with this game. Crucible is a joke now. Terrible Connections, Sweaty Matches, Clever Matadors.

For me SBMM is not a problem, its the 6v5 and 5v4. My team is always down one player and it stays like that the whole game. Anyone experience this?

My only main gripe about Crucible: Sliding and floating shotgunners. I'd rather get killed by any other weapon. Shotguns are one hit kills even on body shots. The instant you see someone slide or float up you know they are using a shotgun as their main weapon. I saw someone last night owning everyone including me with a pulse rifle and they did it with style. That is good to see. You tip your hat. On principle alone I dismantle every shotgun RNG gives me.

Ever consider the possibility that you keep playing the same guys because the player base is decreasing? People like to make sbmm the sacrificial lamb now a days, when the simple fact is the player base is dried up. The filthy casual has moved on guys and all that is left is the tryhards playing each other and not even cbmm is gonna change that! I'm sure by now Bunnie has heard our crys for matchmaking preferences, and hopefully they will incorporate our feedback (like my personal deal breaker, dedicated servers) into D2. Until then...it is what it is! Grab another game and get your sanity people!

The slow, melodic music of the birds singing in the trees. The sun rising magnificently over the horizon, covering the ground in warm light that causes the dew to sparkle like gems. A young man wakes up. A gamer, tired, but awake. He looks out the window with eyes half open as he keys the power button on his PS4. The sound of Destiny's theme music plays as he loads in on his character. He checks his loadout. Mida and a fusion, just the way he left them. He hovers over the doubles playlist, worried. He knows his rank. How couldn't he? Everyone makes such a stupid point about it. His brows furrowed as he pressed down on his button to enter the playlist. He put down his controller and reached over to put his headphones on. He set a music playlist active. He new it would be a long wait. Usually taking 5 to 10 minutes. He looked to the top left as the loading circle kept spinning. "Searching for sweats" read the loading text. He didn't budge, he knew what he was going into. The text changed. "Evaluating farthest players away." He sighed, and closed his eyes. It was always like this now. Ever since that update. He heard his ship begin to enter orbit and his eyes cracked open. He peaked at his phone. 7 minutes into his playlist. "Eh, early huh?" he said sarcastically. The ship dropped down into the clouds. His character spawned in. The booming voice of Shaxx emerged from the ambience. "I've seen enough. I'm calling this one!" The mercy rule appeared in the bottom left, and the countdown quickly booted him to orbit. He saw new text appear. "We're splitting up those teams to find you a worse random." The text read. He still wasn't surprised. It took another 8 minutes to find a match. When the round locked in and players descended into orbit, he took a minute to check the lobby. A level 13 with a blue scout rifle and unleveled subclass, and a team of two. His eyes narrowed on the duo. Two stormcallers, two clever dragons with hc rounds, and two matadors, while both wore those flashy new quickdraw mittens. Both had skorris to chain supers, and the two both sported a dictionary clan name with brackets on either side, to make sure people knew they were competitive. He fought bravely, and the two made sure they were both ressed before bagging him after they rushed him with their matadors and electric crutch punches. The game was over soon, the level 13 sporting a magnificent 3-24. Unfaltered, he glanced at the top left as a message appeared. "gg git gud" He let out a deep breath. "-blam!- this matchmaking"

all i read was "i want SBMM removed because i can't smash noobz casually, when i want, and my k/d is suffering."

Destiny doesn't have the player base to support sbmm let alone a ranked playlist. It should be cbmm based on how few people there are that still play the game

Just stop playing. That's your option for the time being, all you can do is hope that if their playerbase drops off that maybe they'll take the complaints seriously. I'm nothing special but I am in the top 1% of Destiny tracker for crucible with regard to DTR score and time played with almost 32 days in Crucible with a 1.23 k/d. I don't bring these up as a subtle brag but merely to show that I've put the time into crucible like many others. As someone who used to love crucible because it's such a unique experience in comparison to other games (different abilities, more fluid movement, etc) I'm sick of this shit. The whole crucible experience has gone down hill. I truly believe that weapons felt the best right before TTK dropped when they introduced rift and balanced everything. From what I remember (this was over a year ago) everything felt pretty powerful and viable. Now, between the HRoF pulses being too powerful (argue against this all you want... there's a reason why we see this being used by almost everyone. Hand cannons are not in a good spot, auto rifles are still blah, and scouts are rarely seen except for mida), shotguns being inconsistent, shitty play styles to counter the lack of powerful weapons, sweaty matches non stop, spawning into games half over down by 5k points with the enemy team having supers/heavy, and lagging players crucible SUCKS TO PLAY. This is coming from someone who used to play crucible daily and enjoy it, now it's just such a shit show that it's discouraging to play. If there was only one issue with crucible it wouldn't be so bad, but it's plagued by many and that's why it's so bad right now. That's not to say that I don't enjoy the game because I do, but Bungie needs to pull their head out of their asses, play their own game and fix it.

I'm at my breaking point too man. Crucible is literally a miserable experience and at what cost? Beginning players are shielded from high skilled players because they don't want to "discourage them"

Play division...lah

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I also have yet to see a valid argument in favor of SBMM

SBMM is awesome as long as the population is high. The longer a game exists the worse SBMM gets SBMM can and is so great at a games peak, but when it's dying it leaves those who stick around in a tough spot. Destroy your KD to get more fun matches or keep playing like you're fighting for prize money every game possible. I don't see SBMM ever going away, but it would be nice if they accounted for the population and loosened it as the game ages and declines