Your TWAB this week has some outright lies in it.
And its obvious to the community it does. Lets go down, section by section.
“First we identify a pool of available players with good connection to you”
-Oh really? Is that why there are multiple red bar warriors in every game
“if THAT doesn’t work, we expand the search again with more variance in connection quality”
-While I absolutely believe it, I don’t believe it’s the third criteria. It’s the second. I live in the northeast united states. At peak times, I should have no problem finding a 3v3 game or 6v6 game on great connection to people in the eastern united states. My netduma routinely tells me half of the players in my game well outside of 2500 miles from me with average pings over 200.
“Why are you teaming me up with weaker teammates?”
-You missed the entire second half, and the point, of this question: why are you giving me weaker teammates and super strong opponents, ensuring a loss? It isn’t a happenstance occurrence, its often.
“Do you try to force players into a 50% win/loss ratio? Nope.”
-Outright lie. First of all, several of your developers have gone on record saying the goal is to have us at a 50% W/L ration. Secondly, we need only look at our stats. I sit almost exclusively at a 50% ratio, and I suspect majority of players who solo queue often do as well. Obviously if you play exclusively on a team and you are a strong team, the game matchmaker can only go so far. But this response is an outright lie.
"Why can’t I just relax and enjoy some matches with my friends?”
Way to add on “with my friends” so you could justify an answer. Sure, Private matches awesome when I’ve actually got 5 friends or more online. It really supplied a niche group of players with content. Bravo. But your response is again not in spirit with the actual issue and soars leaps and bounds above the overwhelming masses. We want to be able to QUEUE up and relax for a couple games after work or school and not have to put a huge amount of work into doing so.
Its time to listen to your player base bungie. Stop lying to us. Start listening. Many players have moved on to other games and I guarantee you, if this stuff isn’t fixed soon, and certainly if it persists to D2, you may find yourself with a player base smaller than no mans sky.
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I'm mostly pve but I can agree with the pvp base. That was bullshit. They don't even care how blatant the lies are now. I don't PVP regularly and I've seen first hand through limited playtime all these claims they are making being false. Another developer should look at what bungie have done with this game and improve it, shouldn't be that hard and providing they actually listen to their player base they will sell shitloads of it. This game could have been amazing. And at times it is but it's mostly down to the community and guardians I've came across that have made this game what it is for me. Not bungies meddling.
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Bungie is the worst at bullshitting. Can't bullshit better bullshitters.
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4 AntwortenI think you people just got bad connections cause i barely see red bars.
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There needs to be region lock
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24 AntwortenBungie addresses the community about matchmaking: some community members dont like their response, they must be lying. Its expected for there to be posts like these.
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26 AntwortenI love how people think their individual experience proves they are lying. Climate change?! That's BS! I went outside today and it was snowing.
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Bungie is a bunch of socialist and know what is best for you. So shut up and Vote Ernie in 2020. Until then cry in your basement with some play doh and coloring books and Bungie will provide you a proper therapy dog until Destiny 2 comes out
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Gonna keep bumping thus
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Bearbeitet von IceIllex: 11/18/2016 9:26:01 PMBungie continues to lie more and more. I honestly don't know why either. A lot of their lies could have easily been them saying "oh shit we messed up" but instead they lie, even though it's obvious they are doing it. Like seriously, in regards to SBMM, if they really want to leave it as is, just state "the current matchmaking system is here to stay as it accomplishes as much as we'd like it to for our criteria. But we are working on an more balanced system for Destiny 2" Yes, people would be disappointed, but it's better than us being angry about the lies, and disappointed. Bungie's PR department is really lacking more and more, from lying to our faces, forgetting to put in certain game changes into the patch notes (shoulder charge changes), and showing content cut content in trailers (voidlord, solar Lord, various exotic armors) it's getting ridiculous. I honestly can't believe anything they say because they are either lying, will change their minds or just speaking BS.
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Y'all need to let that hurt go. You don't like it???... LEAVE... Very simple concept. Y'all act this is the only game available to play, Smfh
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1 AntwortenI was literally thinking the same thing when I read the update. There is NO WAY that I'm playing against people in my area with good connections on a daily basis. I sometimes check people's profiles when I'm playing to see where they are located and play against people from all over the world. It used to be (in year one) that I'd routinely play against people in the MD/VA/DE/DC area, which is where I live and I very rarely had lag issues. In fact, I typically saw the same guys in matches and ended up doing raids with them because I saw them so often in crucible. Now it's just ridiculous to play and despite everything Bungie has to say the lag is atrocious (but not all the time) and it's frustrating to say the least. Also, if connection is the priority why does the connection quality variance change?! Shouldn't the skill variance change to ensure we have a good connection? Saying to play private matches with friends is a cop out, I don't want to play private matches all the time. Bungie: why not just roll back to year one match making and see if it makes your playerbase happy? Other games and implemented some form of SBMM but they listened to their customers and immediately rescinded it! Why does this even need to be a discussion when so many people are CLEARLY unhappy about it?
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2 AntwortenBungie is straight up lying to its community. This is a big f*ck you from Bungie to the PvP player base. We gave them constructive and creative feedback and this is what we get in return - Bunch of f*cking lies regarding the match making. Enough is enough, I can not be a part of this anymore or sponsor a big company with this sort of mentality.
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I just don't get why they lie and more importantly: when is enough ENOUGH? They have plenty of MONEY for servers! I just don't buy the excuse that they're"in the red" as a studio. I'm not much of a pvp player but i DO see the issues when i play during iron banner events. P2P systems only get worse when there's a dip in player base. I mean, that's common sense. I don't mind going up against some d head w a 2.5KD and him stomping me, so long as we have a good connection. Deej's post on "how to complaib properly" was a link to a guy who was acting as a community manager!?? I mean, wow.... He also was a guy who said SBMM basically doesn't exist. So it's ok to voice a complaint......as long as you're actually agreeing w bungie? Mmmmmmkay.
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They're a bunch of lying twats who think they're dealing with children. straight up lie to the community and call us stupid, that's been their approach for as long as I can remember.
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3 AntwortenGame is over 2 years old. Of course the player base has dwindled. Just like every other game that came out over 2 years ago.
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I don't really care much about SBMM. What I will say however is that even in THE GAME it hints at SBMM When a game ends one sided the message "we're breaking up the teams to find a better match" That's a bit incriminating...
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3 AntwortenGuys, enough is enough. Yeah the game is broken, yeah Bungie lies, etc etc etc. True.. BUT this is all old news. What's getting even older is post after post with the same drivel. News Flash guys. Sadly this game is NOT GOING TO CHANGE in any meaningful way. This game has run it's course. Please stop with all of the crying on the FORUM. If you don't like the way things are now simply quit playing. You are not going to affect change in way shape or form at this point in time despite your intentions being honorable. It wouldn't be a bad thing to actually see something informative or humorous from time to time on the FORUM would it?
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[quote]Your TWAB this week has some outright lies in it. And its obvious to the community it does. Lets go down, section by section. “First we identify a pool of available players with good connection to you” -Oh really? Is that why there are multiple red bar warriors in every game “if THAT doesn’t work, we expand the search again with more variance in connection quality” -While I absolutely believe it, I don’t believe it’s the third criteria. It’s the second. I live in the northeast united states. At peak times, I should have no problem finding a 3v3 game or 6v6 game on great connection to people in the eastern united states. My netduma routinely tells me half of the players in my game well outside of 2500 miles from me with average pings over 200. “Why are you teaming me up with weaker teammates?” -You missed the entire second half, and the point, of this question: why are you giving me weaker teammates and super strong opponents, ensuring a loss? It isn’t a happenstance occurrence, its often. “Do you try to force players into a 50% win/loss ratio? Nope.” -Outright lie. First of all, several of your developers have gone on record saying the goal is to have us at a 50% W/L ration. Secondly, we need only look at our stats. I sit almost exclusively at a 50% ratio, and I suspect majority of players who solo queue often do as well. Obviously if you play exclusively on a team and you are a strong team, the game matchmaker can only go so far. But this response is an outright lie. "Why can’t I just relax and enjoy some matches with my friends?” Way to add on “with my friends” so you could justify an answer. Sure, Private matches awesome when I’ve actually got 5 friends or more online. It really supplied a niche group of players with content. Bravo. But your response is again not in spirit with the actual issue and soars leaps and bounds above the overwhelming masses. We want to be able to QUEUE up and relax for a couple games after work or school and not have to put a huge amount of work into doing so. Its time to listen to your player base bungie. Stop lying to us. Start listening. Many players have moved on to other games and I guarantee you, if this stuff isn’t fixed soon, and certainly if it persists to D2, you may find yourself with a player base smaller than no mans sky.[/quote] What is the trials map this week
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In regards to the 50% win/loss ratio. Why does it take 10 seconds to respawn? Giving my opponents 10 seconds to run and cap the other flags? Iron banner, 4 guys including me, were capping B. Got fist of havoc'd. Took 10 seconds for all 4 of us to respawn. By then the enemy team took out the other 2 friendlies and capped the final control point. Or when I get a good team, good connection and then the game decides to "find a better match" and then I am put into a match that is either already over, about to be mercy'd or laggy af. Seems like artificially creating a 50/50 win loss ratio to me. But then again, it's just my opinion.
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All I want for Christmas is a Reindeer Sparrow. And by Reindeer, I mean the Felwinter's Peak Wolves.
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Because going back to year 1 would be nice I know for me easy kills most games but for those people that struggle to go positive each game now it would be a nightmare
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The foibles of modern day internet. Also known as *WAAAAHH, IM NOT DESTROYING EVERYONE ALL OF THE TIME* As ive stated in another post, the denizens of this forum are a tiny minority of Destiny players, and as with the Halo 3 forums, the people of this forum are inevitably the whiniest, moaniest, unreasonable(est) people you can come across. Believe it or not, the internet sometimes doesn't act the way it should, people might have the most amazing internet connection out there and are thus connecting to you with low ping, but then, oh look, someone on their network has started watching netflix (other providers are available) and their ping goes up and they start to lag!! OH NOES!! Some people will just have an awful internet connection due to location or the fact that their chosen ISP is awful. OH NOES!!!! Shit happens, it really does, especially on the internet. Sometimes a red bar god will pop up, other times that sucker will get booted, sometimes your connection drops and you get booted. There are endless reasons for how this can occur and sometimes we just have to sigh and suck it up (or nerdrage like a mofo if your as bad at pvp as i am!!). Are Bungie lying to us? Probably not, what would they have to gain from being untruthful? Its not as if this community needs something to get their knickers in a twist about! If there was such a great issue with the *entire* Destiny player base then you can guarantee that this game wouldn't have any players at all. But yet, thousands still play it every single day. That surely tells you something? (In this communities eyes, it will tell them that I'm a Desticle because I didnt agree with them, woe is me...)
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Everything has to be a damn conspiracy to you people.
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We all know it's a lie I'm tired of playing against red bar opponents from other continents, I think it was the last game I played in had like 3 opponents from other counties Japan China and U.K.
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5 AntwortenHillary Clinton must be working for bungie. Lie after lie after lie. Gg bungillary