Your TWAB this week has some outright lies in it.
And its obvious to the community it does. Lets go down, section by section.
“First we identify a pool of available players with good connection to you”
-Oh really? Is that why there are multiple red bar warriors in every game
“if THAT doesn’t work, we expand the search again with more variance in connection quality”
-While I absolutely believe it, I don’t believe it’s the third criteria. It’s the second. I live in the northeast united states. At peak times, I should have no problem finding a 3v3 game or 6v6 game on great connection to people in the eastern united states. My netduma routinely tells me half of the players in my game well outside of 2500 miles from me with average pings over 200.
“Why are you teaming me up with weaker teammates?”
-You missed the entire second half, and the point, of this question: why are you giving me weaker teammates and super strong opponents, ensuring a loss? It isn’t a happenstance occurrence, its often.
“Do you try to force players into a 50% win/loss ratio? Nope.”
-Outright lie. First of all, several of your developers have gone on record saying the goal is to have us at a 50% W/L ration. Secondly, we need only look at our stats. I sit almost exclusively at a 50% ratio, and I suspect majority of players who solo queue often do as well. Obviously if you play exclusively on a team and you are a strong team, the game matchmaker can only go so far. But this response is an outright lie.
"Why can’t I just relax and enjoy some matches with my friends?”
Way to add on “with my friends” so you could justify an answer. Sure, Private matches awesome when I’ve actually got 5 friends or more online. It really supplied a niche group of players with content. Bravo. But your response is again not in spirit with the actual issue and soars leaps and bounds above the overwhelming masses. We want to be able to QUEUE up and relax for a couple games after work or school and not have to put a huge amount of work into doing so.
Its time to listen to your player base bungie. Stop lying to us. Start listening. Many players have moved on to other games and I guarantee you, if this stuff isn’t fixed soon, and certainly if it persists to D2, you may find yourself with a player base smaller than no mans sky.
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I think its funny how i stated that bungie didnt care what the player base wanted and got told i was full of shit. There reponse just slapped the people who support them in the face. After that update, i uninstalled the game. I should have never bought RoI, but i had faith. Should have followed my own advise on this one instead of thinking people may be right. Win some and lose some.
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8 AntwortenYou guys dont get it yet, Bungie has already pretty much told you guys that matchmaking as sbmm isnt going to change. Its not hard to see they make decisions based on the overall health of the games population and at this point its pretty obvious given that they have decided to stick with it, that sbmm is beneficial to the majority of the community. Just because you see lots of posts about the removal of sbmm doesnt mean they project the majority of players and it also doesnt mean its in the games best interests.
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43 AntwortenBearbeitet von TheLastSeabass: 11/19/2016 4:56:56 PMBungie has earned zero trust and credibility with me Auto Rifle buff (0.04%) We're not using SBMM We're not using SBMM We're not using SBMM We're not using SBMM Ok, we're using SBMM We're fixing SBMM We're fixing SBMM We're fixing SBMM We're fixing SBMM Comitatus is not bugged Damage Referee Mercy Rule We know you value your gear, you'll be able to take them forward We're fixing SBMM We're banning people The way they respond to community concerns....they are either arrogant or care more about profit so they lie. It's probably a combination of the two. [b]EDIT ON AUTORIFLE BUFF[/b]: for those of you challenged with math (and history), 0.04% = 0.0004. In December 2015 Bungie announced an auto rifle buff which everyone was excited for. Then, they forgot to to actually put them in the patch. When they finally patched them, some of the changes were barely noticable. Here's from the actual update: Auto Rifles Small increase to base damage Low RoF (Suros Regime, An Answering Chord): 0.30% increase from previous base damage Med RoF (Zhalo Supercell, Paleocontact JPK-43): 0.78% increase from previous base damage High RoF (Arminius-D, Necrochasm): 0.04% increase from previous base damage When the community was amazed at why they would have a 0.04% High ROF autorifle buff (4 damage out of every 10,000), Bungie said the original promise was a typo and the 0.04% was intended. Hence, the the lack of trust in Bungie [b]Edit: Bungie lies that will make you laugh[/b] Playable terrain (check at the 2 mins mark): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfhrONAp-c Checking the playable terrain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9YoJjdEBv8
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Hahaha! What a nub.
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3 AntwortenBearbeitet von Shadowjack: 11/21/2016 4:51:33 AMWhat are posts like this going to accomplish? They're not changing their matchmaking to strict CBMM. The vast majority of people who play this game don't come to the forums or visit gaming websites so they're not even aware of this. [i]They don't care.[/i] This is not the majority of the community. You're talking to an echo chamber. You're not changing their minds. So you have two options: stop playing or accept the game as is. That's it. Bungie is not redesigning Destiny for you. Accept that if leave.
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No matter what matchmaking algorithm is used, destiny can only put you with people playing at that moment. Lets face it: most of us have maxed out y3 content and have moved on. I dont want to say the community is dying, but there certainly are far fewer players now than on 9/20.
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Bearbeitet von haiyu: 11/21/2016 2:20:27 AM[quote][b]Why can’t I just relax and enjoy some matches with my friends?[/b] We introduced Private Matches to the Crucible with the launch of Destiny: Rise of Iron so that you could do just that. Take matchmaking into your own hands and make the Crucible what you want it to be.[/quote] [b][i][u]PRIVATE MATCHES.[/u][/i][/b] Ok, ok... [b][i][u]PRIVATE MATCHES.[/u][/i][/b] We meant actual crucible, didn't we? :(
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this shit of a matchmaking forces you to have 50% w/l lmao bungie stop lying
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Overwatch ftw
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What is TW-oh I really dont care.
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5 Antwortenwe banded together in protest to blow up the forums now we all need to band together and sit out of the crucible. just dont play it anymore till its fixed hell just dont play the game period.
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7 AntwortenRemove SBMM
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5 AntwortenYep bungie has proved themselves to be nothing but money hungry liars.
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11 AntwortenWow, someone is too emotionally invested in a video game.
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5 AntwortenI lol'd when they confirmed that this game runs at a 10hz tik rate, and then acting like theyre cool for achieving 30hz....really? What are we playing quake arena on dial up?
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Connect me to good local connections, I'll wait. Stop people taking triple damage from lag. I do very well/win almost all games against skilled players when there is not any lag or connection abuse. About 95% of my games spawn me with 6 good players on Alpha and then me holding the flag on Bravo, with 5 complete vegetables. I automatically know from this that 3-4 of my team will get a negative k/d and 2-3 or more of the enemy team will suddenly start to teleport and stop taking damage at around halfway through the match. This is usually when I have a streak and I'm keeping the veggies in the lead. The other suddenly team survive an onslaught of kill shots and I die. "You've lost the lead". Yes as expected, with the lag cheats got butt hurt and turned on their scrubby methods, or the game is programmed to assist losers and cheats to ensure I can't kill them and pub stomp away with 3 years of skill and practice. I can't take anyone with a consistently high average k/d seriously as most I see are cheats and anyone with a Trials flawless emblem on is always red barring. I know lots of very good players are out there, but when I 3-4 headshot you, you should still die that time.
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2 AntwortenThere's 0.004 percent of truth in there update this week I love destiny but I think it's time to break, final fantasy 15 is coming out soon. I also just bought resident evil 6 for 15$ yesterday. I'm sick of grinding week after week for shit rewards or if I do get the gun I want it has the worst perks possible.
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12 Antworten"Why are you putting me with weaker players?" Example of misdirection. Pick questions to answer that aren't exactly the problem at hand. The truth? They're not putting us with "weaker players". 9/10 times, those players are actually good players, but they're being held back because of lag. The lag, caused by SBMM, causes them to have crappy games. But, Bungie chooses to answer a question like this, knowing that 99% of the player base doesn't even understand that this is why they end up with players on their team going negative for multiple matches. Those players aren't bad to begin with. Most just think they're bad, because of the lag holding them back, making them have multiple bad matches in a row. So, Bungie says, "No, we're not matching you with weaker players.", because they're not. Those players just can't get ahead during those matches when they're the ones experiencing lag. I've seen those players come back and trash the whole lobby for 2-3 games in a row, because they weren't experiencing lag anymore. But, by answering this question, the real problem can be completely skipped over. The question should be, "Why do you allow for there to be a 'lag team', where 4 of the players on one team are experiencing lag, but only 1 or 2 on the other team are experiencing lag, which causes those players to play bad matches?" That should be the question. I'm sure many of you will call me nuts, and say that I need to wear my "spin-foil hat". But I'm telling you, I guarantee that this is the truth.
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3 AntwortenDamn, way to skip the other parts of the explanation on how they match people up, but since you're only trying to be a negative, combatant @$$hat, then it makes sense you only pick and choose specific little things. You must not have read the entire TWAB because you clearly missed the part where it said not after it identifies a pool of players with good connection in your area they then pick out similar skill levels WITHIN THAT POOL, but if that fails then it broadens it out. Looks like you just ignored the skill part of that, but I see you just wanted to keep the negativity in these forums (which you do a very good job of)
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2 AntwortenNot sure who to believe anymore: Bungie or Bungie? https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/5dsdf3/not_sure_who_to_believe_anymore_bungie_or_bungie/
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Millennial entitlement bullshit. I don't wanna try hard, I just want a win given to me with minimal effort.
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Of course they are not going to listen to a minority of the playerbase I have seem maybe 5-600 people thinking SBMM is the issue hardlyworth Bungies time seeing as the many of those have openly said they want to be able to pubstomp lesser skilled players and the rest blame SBMM on connectivity so not really knowing what they are on about in other words Seeing as the primary focus is still on connection.
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I don't believe they're lying. I believe that those absolutely are Bungie's intentions. What I can't believe is, as you said, that is the order the process of matchmaking takes. Instead of telling bungie they're lying, we the community need to explain that what we are seeing doesn't reinforce their design goals. That doesn't mean coming here and saying "bungie you suck get it right," because we all know this isn't the kind of feedback anyone would listen to. It also doesn't mean bungie are lying, they just haven't got the matchmaking process right yet, which Deej admitted.
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heres the thing, people who want cbmm are sick of lag but everyone thinks they just want to curbstomp everyone. There will be a few people who will curbstomp and call people noobs i can see that. People who want sbmm want new players protected which is fine but dont you think when they get in a lagfest time after time they wont enjoy it? But i see why they would do it. Some might just quit if they get rekt alot and not try to get better. So basically either way somebody will complain or have issuses. Both sides have good and bad points. But personally i want less lag then there has to be hitting someone with headshots and healing them should not be part of the game lol