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11/17/2016 10:19:47 AM
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Love how conservatives say people who want abortions should accept the consequences of their actions...
yet won't accept the consequences of making people have unwanted children.
If you're going to force people to go on welfare because they can't afford to raise a child, don't blame them for clogging up the welfare system. You made them go on welfare by denying them the option of abortion.
Similarly, don't deny two loving people who just happen to be of the same sex, the chance to adopt a child that you put into care by denying the parent an abortion. Clearly heterosexual people aren't adopting enough children, because they're the ones having their own so don't need to adopt. The number of infertile heterosexual couples is incredibly small compared to the number of homosexual couples and they aren't enough to deal with the issue of children put up for adoption on their own, given how many there are unadopted.
Yes people 'shouldn't be having kids if they can't look after them', but you aren't going to change the sexual behaviour of the entire human race, so you need effective ways of dealing with bad situations when they arise. 'Liberals' think that too but welfare, abortion, same-sex adoptions, are all practical ways of dealing with bad situations because they accept that they will arise. Conservatives don't seem to understand that you need to prepare solutions for when shit hits the fan. Unless it's military defence of the country of course, then they seem to understand.
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You want to kill baby's that's it. If you support abortion you DENY a child the right to live. You disgusting pricks want dead baby's that's body parts are being sold. You sick -blam!-ers!!!
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I'm pro-choice. People can choose whether they want a kid by: Choosing whether to wear a condom or not Choosing to take birth control or not Choosing whether or not they should have sex I'm pro-choice alright. If they still decide they're gonna have unprotected sex after all of this, they made their choice. I'm against people using abortion as a "get out of jail free" card. Abortion has its place, mainly for -blam!- victims, those whose baby is harming the mother, and other similar cases. It is not for the ditzy teenage girl who "got reeeeaaaaaly turnt last night and like, totally woke up next to Chad in bed".
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14 Antworten[quote]yet won't accept the consequences of making people have unwanted children. If you're going to force people to go on welfare because they can't afford to raise a child, don't blame them for clogging up the welfare system. You made them go on welfare by denying them the option of abortion. Similarly, don't deny two loving people who just happen to be of the same sex, the chance to adopt a child that you put into care by denying the parent an abortion. Clearly heterosexual people aren't adopting enough children, because they're the ones having their own so don't need to adopt. The number of infertile heterosexual couples is incredibly small compared to the number of homosexual couples and they aren't enough to deal with the issue of children put up for adoption on their own, given how many there are unadopted. Yes people 'shouldn't be having kids if they can't look after them', but you aren't going to change the sexual behaviour of the entire human race, so you need effective ways of dealing with bad situations when they arise. 'Liberals' think that too but welfare, abortion, same-sex adoptions, are all practical ways of dealing with bad situations because they accept that they will arise. Conservatives don't seem to understand that you need to prepare solutions for when shit hits the fan. Unless it's military defence of the country of course, then they seem to understand.[/quote] [quote]unwanted children[/quote] Think about the depravity of that phrase.
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2 AntwortenI hate when they rant about gun laws talking about how it won't stop people from getting guns and still want abortion banned. Flying from America to Australia for an abortion is cheaper than getting a child, they won't even have time to mourn if that's what they want, that or they'll do a diy abortion and endanger the woman too.
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8 AntwortenSame people fighting for the right to kill a helpless baby, are the same ones acting morally superior to trump fro wanting secure borders for our country...lmao. Liberals are such hypocrites it's actually mind boggling
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2 Antworten[quote]yet won't accept the consequences of making people have unwanted children.[/quote]Unless "conservatives" held a gun to their head and forced them to have sex then it's still the parents' fault isn't it? It's their fault they're welfare sponges. So yes, "conservatives" can still then complain about them clogging up the welfare system even if abortion is illegal, since it still comes down to their actions being what put them in the system isn't it? Some of you kids need a class on basic inference do they not teach you these things in your middle schools?
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33 AntwortenHow can you justify abortion after the presence of a heartbeat and brainwaves?
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I'm not taking I side on this, just presenting the points for both sides Is it really right to deny a person life because of their parents? Is it really right to make someone be a parent?
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"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away."
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I dunno if this is a passive-aggressive post towards me. If it is, I don't care. But I commented, so I do care. ... -blam!-. [spoiler]*whispers in your ear* it's free real estate.[/spoiler]
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14 AntwortenBearbeitet von CrudeDude: 11/18/2016 2:40:25 PMIt's called adoption . What kind of person defends the murder of a helpless tiny little baby? A selfish coward What kind of person defends the life of a helpless little baby......a hero. You know, it's too bad that your mother wasn't a POS like you...otherwise you'd never would have had a chance to proudly support this.
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9 AntwortenThey also cut funding or refuse preventative measures like comprehensive sexual education and access to birth control.
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You're forcing the cuckservatives to face their hypocrisy? May the Spaghetti Monster have mercy on your soul.
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8 AntwortenBearbeitet von Stallcall: 11/18/2016 2:10:58 AM[quote]making people have unwanted children.[/quote] [quote]force people to go on welfare[/quote] You and I have very different definitions of "force." Unless a conservative is holding a gun to two people and shouting, "Procreate," then I fail to see how a certain ideological camp is [i]literally forcing[/i] people to have unwanted children. But hold on a minute. You tried to address this point. [quote]Yes people 'shouldn't be having kids if they can't look after them', but you aren't going to change the sexual behaviour of the entire human race, so you need effective ways of dealing with bad situations when they arise. [/quote] "We need to subsidize other people's reckless behavior because if we allow them to behave recklessly, they'll end up on welfare, which is just another subsidy." So any way we look at it, we're being coerced into giving these people money. Maybe we should take this money out of the equation and see if people stop responding to the incentive to have unwanted kids. After all, state benefits make having children a profitable endeavor rather than an expensive one.
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9 AntwortenMaybe conservatives should educate liberals by letting them know that humans reproduce by having sex. That way they can get the word out to their people, so they can be aware of the choices they make and take personal responsibility for those choices. Conservatives believe in limited government and the personal responsibility of the individual, but liberals and their lot are about blaming others instead of taking personal responsibility while relying on the government to solve their problems.
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3 AntwortenLeftists sure like to compare us to animals a lot, seeing as we are just animals ourselves, so let's compare sex to the animal kingdom. Do other animals consistently have sex for pleasure, or solely for reproduction?
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I'm conservative on everything but this point, it's not my body or life and we have 7 billion people on this planet. We don't need any more .
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14 AntwortenIt's not the conservatives fault that people have sex and don't realize that, that is the way to create life
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2 AntwortenWhy do you want to put orphanages out of business?
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Question; Do you work at Aunt Anne's pretzel shop in the mall? Because you seem unusually adept at twisting things into knots.
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16 AntwortenSo you're blaming conservatives for another person's irresponsibility?
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I have no issue with same sex partners adopting and raising a child. But you have to understand there are alternatives to abortion. And there are several ways to prevent pregnancy. A man can get snipped, a woman can have her tubes tied. While birth control is not 100% reliable you need to be responsible. For example don't just take the pill, use a condom and spermicide with the pill. It all boils down to being a responsible adult. Until proven that an unborn child feels no pain I can not condone the torture of a human life. Now if you want to debate Ra pe as a factor, I do not think there is a good answer in that situation. It all boils down to being a responsible adult.
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My take is this. If someone has a consensual relationship and gets pregnant, you shouldn't be allowed to kill the baby. However, in the case of r@pe, a women should have the choice.
