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If bungie have done anything, this week they have proved they don't care what we think or about any petitions or posts that anyone make. No point in wasting the time asking, posting or making petitions. They. Don't. Care.

Hey deej would you guys mind awarding me my thorn yet? I mean i did that dumb quest and got nothing but disappointment.

I upvoted :-)

Go play battlefield one then crucible , I'll wait.............................. Now that you're back to the garbage you gave us tell my why the hell destiny's engine is trash? Your budget was astronomical for destiny and we get pvp similar to something on a gameboy

[quote]Please click that link for a clinic on good feedback.[/quote] Unfortunately Deej the people you work with nerfed Throwing Knife. There is no amount of feedback in the world that can help these people do their jobs better.

Deej I honestly have defended you anytime someone said anything bad about how bungie works etc. But this, this is just plain bad. Not only did you link it in a way that basically said, you guys are irrelevant the way you're currently trying to reach out, but you didn't even use your own words or seemingly pass it along. I understand that people just saying to remove it is no help and is probably frustrating, but the truth is people have been writing structured arguments for a long time with seemingly no response. There's many issues with SBMM other than the obvious connection side. I understand that you are trying your best to make the crucible a fun place for everyone, even those of lower skill. But currently it isn't working, it just isn't. I can't link the poll right now due to my device but it's trending top 5 so I'm assuming you saw and ignored it. It has 82% of votes for CBMM over SBMM and I know 82% of people aren't top 10% for crucible. EDIT: I have been reminded that the poll is only forum based, which is generally only those who take the game more seriously. Therefore it is likely not a true 100% representation of the entire player base only those who play this game way too much (; (myself included) At least take the time to explain why it's better, all that has been said so far is the pros to your current system (a mix of both) and an overall message that we need to learn to communicate to you better. You're right the game is ever changing a think we understand that, but this conversation has been going on for a long long time and I personally have not seen anything that stated that you and the bungie team are working on making it more enjoyable for [b]everybody[/b] leaving us with a feeling that this is how you like it. Overall amazing game, lots of positive direction, and you have listened in the past, but this, well this hurts. Here are all of the pros that I personally see for both SBMM [u]and [/u] CBMM SBMM 1. Gives lower skill players a chance to improve against equal skill player [b]when playing with people of equal or lesser skill to them[/b] 2.Makes each game more competitive (sometimes pro, sometimes con) 3. I'm honestly stuck there CBMM (more heavily/no or very little SBMM) 1. Lower skilled players can play with their higher skilled friends without getting obliterated 2.You can actually use non meta gear/weapons without getting farmed 3.Crucible can actually be played casually 4. Stuck here as well So there is roughly the same number f bullets, the difference is that with less SBMM 90%of people that want to play in fireteams benefit and probably 50% of solo players (taking a 1.0k/d as baseline) I understand it's difficult to engineer any changes, we just want to be heard and spoken to instead of critiqued and told we're miscommunicating especially all of the dishonesty/miscommunication from your end lately *cough 0.4% cough* Here are the cons that I see for each of the systems [u][b]SBMM[/b][/u] 1. Connection overall lags a little further behind (I understand this will never be perfect and is a small portion of the problem) 2.I can't play crucible with my friend (they don't want to go through that and I don't blame them) 3. Trials of Osiris has become the casual gamemode (even despite bungie trying to make the lighthouse more prestigious) 4.Less variety of weapons and more exclusion from fireteams, things that in the last you've openly said you don't want EDIT mentioned by (PaulM1c3) : there is also no way of knowing if you are improving aside from actually checking your elo on destiny tracker..... and who wants to do that? Grumpier off of the game was bad enough. [b]IF[/b] we are going to continue with SBMM people should at the very least be told which tier/rank they are in [b][u]in game[/u][/b] [u][b]CBMM[/b][/u] 1. Games will be more unbalanced more frequently 2. Difficult for low skill players to learn (although I would argue that's what PvE can help with) To summarize I'm not asking that you just press a button and completely remove SBMM, that would obviously make no sense. And I know these types of changes can be very difficult to make happen. But what I would propose in my non-professional but heavily play tested opinion is that you find a system where it isn't completely random but every game isn't super close and super sweaty. I believe this is your goal and we want to help, we're trying to say less emphasis on skill but alas no reply, it needs to be a team effort. Ultimately I want to be able to happily play crucible with my friends again Tl;dr : remove skill based matchmaking

Deej lets just be honest here. Since sbmm has been implemented we have asked for it to be removed. There have been hundreds if not thousands of well written posts that have explained why it needs to be removed. About 90% of the posts are written out of anger because of how frustrating pvp is in its current state. You've ignored our requests for the last year and we've had to resort to spamming the forums in protest. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm all for playing people at my skill level. All I ask for is a level playing field. Whether it's dedicated servers or the removal of sbmm. We all still love and enjoy ( for short periods of time ) this game and most of us will continue to support you. Now that we have your attention the balls in your court.

I am vengeance! I am the night! I AM BATMAN!!!

There's a difference between "Good Feedback" and Being Honest. Don't get me wrong the game is awesome in many ways, but the lack of communication with the people is beyond a issue. SBMM needs to go. Or maybe just put all the red bars into one lobby, why pay for good connection if you are going to be punished? I'm sure a lot of people will agree that pvp is a mess right now and it needs to be fixed. Oh and BUFF PRIMARIES!

Hey Deej you really need to suggest we be able to change the shader of Twilight garrison I really want to use it but man it's pretty ugly.

When you learn to reload, I'll learn to feedback. [spoiler]remove SBMM[/spoiler]

So any feedback that supports your excuses is good feedback? Well I got some bad feedback for you. I pay $110 on fiber Internet just for your matchmaking to turn my internet into dial up. I understand that fireteam can make connection base matchmaking go right out the window but wouldn't skill base matchmaking make the issue even worse? I believe all feedback is good feedback. To bad deej doesn't feel the same way.

People that installed SBMM in this game are pillowbiters.

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