TL:DR at bottom
[b][u]PAST[/u][/b]
"Wahhh Suros is op!"- Auto rifle - nerfed into uselessness until the buff
"Wahhh auto rifles op!" - Blanket auto Nerf into uselessness
"Wahhh Vex is op!"- Fusion rifle - nerfed into uselessness, re-buffed, still useless
"Wahhh Pocket Infinity is OP!"- Fusion rifle - nerfed into oblivion
"Wahhh fusion rifles are op!"- Blanket fusion nerf
"Wahhh blink op!"- Nerfed blink
"Wahhh shot package is op!" - Removed a perk from the game
"Wahhh high impact pulses op!" - All high impact Messenger type pulses nerfed
"Wahhh final round op!"- Removed this perk from all new snipers
"Wahhh hand cannons op!"- Added bloom, ghost bullets, and gimped range across the board
"Wahhh Red Death is op!" - Pulse rifle
"Wahhh shotguns op!"- Blanket shotgun nerf, happened three times until we got to the current shotguns
"Wahhh sunbreakers op!" - Gimped sunbreaker until the buff/fix
"Wahhh sunsingers op!"- Gimped sunsingers
"Wahhh ice breaker encourages camping raid/strike bosses!"- Increased the time it takes for ammo to regen
"Wahhh shadestep/twilight is op!" Added 3 second cool down and lowered to one dodge instead of two
"Wahhh gjallahorn kills bosses too fast!"- Nerfed wolfpack rounds damage
"Wahhh nobody will let me raid with them because I don't have gjallahorn!"- Every player can now get the gjallahorn out of a quest
"Wahhh re-rolling is unbalanced! It reduces weapon variety!"- No weapon can now be re-rolled at the gunsmith anymore
"Wahhh armor piercing rounds op!" Removed ability to shoot through walls
"Wahhh specials are used as primaries!"- Reduced special and heavy ammo across the board
"Wahhh snipers have too much ammo!"- Reduced total sniper ammo capacity across the board
"Wahhh arc bolt/fire bolt is too good!"- Nerfed hitting range and damage
"Wahhh the Ram gives too much armor!"- Nerfed exotic armor perk
"Wahhh the last word kills too fast!" - Multiple nerfs to range and perk
"Wahhh thorn is useless, buff it!"- Buff made it two shot kill with the DOT
"Wahhh thorn is too op now, nerf it!"- 7 months later the inevitable nerf happened, reducing DOT damage and range
"Wahhh hawkmoon has too much range!"- Nerfed range
"Wahhh 3oC is op!"- Lowered drop chance and raised cool down on consecutive uses
"Wahhh snipers are op!"- Increased flinch and reduced the impact of medium impact snipers (like longbow)
"Wahhh bladedancers are op!"- Nerfed subclass three times
"Wahhh tripmine shouldn't stick!"- Removed stick on players
"Wahhh revives in trials are too short!"- Increased revive times across the board
"Wahhh universal remote kills me too far away!"- Nerfed damage and range, buffed ROF slightly
"Wahhh throwing knife and smoke is op!"- Nerfed damage and activation time respectively
"Wahhh mida is op!"- Removed high caliber rounds from its hidden perk
"Wahhh shoulder charge is op!"- Nerfed shoulder charge
[b][u]PRESENT[/u][/b]
"Wahhh primaries are too weak! Buff them!"
"Wahhh shotguns are too op, nerf them!"
"Wahhh stormcaller melee/class is op! Nerf it!"
"Wahhh juggernaut is too op, nerf it!"
"Wahhh there isn't enough class variety! Buff (insert class here)!"
"Wahhh skip/lightning/axiom bolt/sticky grenades are too op! Nerf it/them!"
"Wahhh there isn't enough gun variety! Buff (insert weapon type)!"
"Wahhh Destiny is boring because everything is too weak! Fix it bungo!"
TL:DR, think about why primaries and some abilities are good/suck before you complain for buffs/nerfs.
You people get every single weapon type nerfed, then complain that they're now too weak and "deserve" a buff. This is why PvP is ruined and no wonder bungie struggles to balance this shit. These nerfs also affect PvE too.
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wow, when you step back and look at all them, all you can think is "wow, this is such a great community"!
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The worst thing of all is that in the end pvp is boring as -blam!- and still unbalanced...... If we would revert everything, we'd have a better game I say.
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You can better start to say... The perks/guns/supers the community did not yet nerfed to Trump.. And people asking why i miss year one?? Because weapons not nerfed to Trump, and exotics feeling like exotics..
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7 AntwortenTired of people crying about stormcaller melee range when hunters have throwing knives and smoke grenades...
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1 AntwortenYou forgot BLINK was nerfed and so was NOTHING MANACLES which is why people barely use them.
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2 AntwortenWhat the community didn't get nerfed - Throwing Knife damage. Bungie just did that out of nowhere.
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Every Time i see WAAAH it reminds me of Waluigi.
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So what you're saying is... [spoiler]nerf fusion rifles?[/spoiler]
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Buff shoulder charge again plz bungo
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When are Juggernaut striker Titans that have a shotgun equipped the whole game gonna get nerfed...
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...Use your aggressive feelings boy let the hate flow through you... ~Darth Sidious
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Bearbeitet von The Woker: 11/12/2016 3:48:01 AMYeah people need to realize that the way to "fix" this meta isn't to nerf shotguns again. What we should do is give a slight blanket buff to primary damage or range while also slightly nerfing(or counter buffing the less powered ones) powerful primary archetypes IF they are still too powerful after the blanket buff. Give auto rifles and maybe the less powerful scout rifles some extra damage so that they can slug it out in a fight where the opponent can't use cover. [i]Maybe[/i] give a blanket fusion buff. What I want with fusions is for the faster and mid fire rate ones to have something to distinguish them from shotguns, especially the fastest ones. Snipers could use a handling(ADS, Swap, Reload) buff to make them more effective against rushing shotgunners or fusioners. Maybe tone down the zoom or flinch a bit to help the other changes. Also maybe give hand cannons some more range or accuracy to help them compete in duels but don't alienate scout rifles. Also buff certain pulse archetypes to where they can more reliably three burst kill, or maybe even give the Hopscoch Pilgrim archetype enough to get a two burst(but tone down target acquisition because with sure shot it hits headshots that it shouldn't) so that it can really stand out at longer ranges. Also give sidearms some love. Unfortunately the fastest firing ones are too fast for someone to comfortably shoot effectively, so giving them burst fire or full auto is a creative but also risky approach but could work well seeing how they work well only in closer ranges. Note that if all of these changes were made there would probably be some work to do, but notice how I didn't touch shotguns. To be honest shotguns are in a pretty good spot and they shouldn't be nerfed at this point. What I don't want to see is for time to kill to increase overall, so I'd like to take more creative approaches than just buffing damage on something that isn't a shotgun. I want hand cannons and the faster pulses to receive minor damage boosts compared to what auto rifles and the faster scouts should get. TL;DR show primaries some love, make fusions more unique and different than shotguns, make snipers better handling weapons, make fast sidearms usable and do nothing to shotguns.
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It kinda reminds me of that scene in Bruce Almighty when he tries to make everyone happy, and they all win the lottery only to find out that they've only won a few dollars... Sometimes, you just have to ignore the complainers and not overcompensate.
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1 AntwortenSo...you want us to nerf gjallarhorn?
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1 AntwortenIt all boils down to, "Wahhh guns killed me! Make their bullets heal me!" "Wahhh abilities and supers kill me because I run right into them like a jackass! Remove them so my precious K/D doesn't go down!" Is Call of Duty out yet so these cry babies can go away and play that instead?
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The sad part is it's true...
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PvE is easy so that part doesn't matter.... And if the guns were the same as they were 2 years ago now, everyone would be instakilling everyone. It'd be CoD pretty much.
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Too be fair, Gjallahorn did make PvE a bit too easy. And it was a reasonable nerf. It still absolutely shreds enemies even in year 3. It just has more competition now
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1 AntwortenI remember they accidently rebuffed Vex. Best weekend of trials of my life. The mythloclast was my first true love.
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I miss shot package
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2 AntwortenI remember getting vex literally one day before it was nerfed. It was amazing in both pvp and pve. It did need to be nerfed and in all honesty is the only weapon that was truly op imo. But man did it destroy. I took it back on the raid and just melted everything. It truly felt like a raid exotic. It made atheon feel like a joke which made me feel good because i hated that glitchy bastard. In pvp anyone not using it would get melted. I only played two games with it and then decided it was too unfair because someone like me who was trash at pvp in the beginning weeks was coming out on top. Good old days.
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1 AntwortenSo what you're saying is nerf fusion rifles?
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This needed to be said.
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1 AntwortenAre you saying nerf last word again?
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Wow you hit it spot on my boy Proud of you :,)
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"Wahhhhhhh, its all true" I'm laughing my ass off right now