The thing about shotguns is that they require no skill to get kills with. While other weapons are. Think about it would you rather: Use a primary when A.) The enemy has a shotgun and will blink or titan skate/garrison to get to you and you die B.) the other person might have a god roll weapons and destroys you.[spoiler]yes there are people with meh weapons and you could win in those situations [/spoiler] Or as I explained in part A use a shotgun and just kill him in less than a second. Probably use a shotgun. How to fix this? Improve primaries Perhaps a better radar with memory of gheleon which detects people farther aways.

Lucky you're on PlayStation where the shotgunners just run at you in a straight line... On Xbox all they do is crouch around corners and hover above doorways. I really still don't know how you couldn't counter snipers, all you had to do was flinch them, yeah, evey once in a while they'll get a lucky shot but 9/10 times they'll be too flinched to do shit.

I miss snipers. At least then people used their primarys now its just shotguns besides it was super easy to avoid snipers but when shotguns are around every corner its just cancer

Cant wait for my striker to get nerfed because of it. Thanks Matador. Not like Jugg isn't broken though, no lie.

I still run into rumble with a sniper. -blam!- the meta.

Yea I love shotguns in the place they are in now. Snipers got a bit to much done to them so IMO they need a slight buff. I think warlocks in general and titans loghtening nade needs a nerf. Hunter melee either needs a buff or the other two need a nerf(preferably the second option^) since hunters have the worst melee BY FAR now. Hand Cannons need bloom removed. It didn't work in halo and it doesn't work now. I think there should be a longer delay and cooldown after shooting a shotgun shell before you can melee. And autos need a buff. Hell, grasp archetype is right where it should be. The only reason it is better than everything else is because everything else is underpowered. Disclaimer:[spoiler]If you have a problem with this post or the content in it and you yourself are only good because you use one of the things I said needs a nerf then please don't respond, your opinion is invalid. If you are a person who switches what they use everytime the meta changes and thus is only good because bungie is horrible at balancing, then please disregard this post, i'm not going to argue with you. All opinions expressed in this post are mine(and my friends). If you do not share the same opinion I do not care. If you are someone who thinks stormcaller melee is right where it should be(longer range than a quiver tether or a matador with rangefinder) then disregard this post. You have no clue what balance is or where to find if. Common questions: Yes. The opinions expressed above are commonly accepted amongst people I play with No. I do not care what your opinion is. Yes. I use a shotgun. Yes. I also use a sniper. Yes I use a handcannon. Yes I use grasp Yes. It was worth writing this post because I am bored. No. It was a waste of your time to read it. Yes. I am salty. No. I did not get carried flawless. No. You should not be triggered by this. And finally, no. I am not stupid.[/spoiler]

[quote]All the scrub snipers have now turned into scrub shotgunner and that's ALOT easier to deal with.[/quote] If only you realized how wrong you were...It's much harder to snipe in Rumble than it is to use a shotgun to get kills. Honestly, shotguns are probably the easiest weapons to get kills with. And yes, I have more shotgun kills than sniper kills, so I'm not biased.

I still snipe shotgun rushers all the time. My quick scope and doctrine/handcannon/pulse game is on point. Not to mention the shotgunners who run to these special boxes or attempt to use a primary once in a while

Wait, but shotgun rushers aren't the ones who got snipers nerfed. It was the people who wanted to match a sniper with their scout rifles or pulse rifles.

My k.d has gotten a lot better with them switching to shotguns. Theyre complete idiots in thinking that they can always cross the map and soak up all the bullets to then 1 shot you. Theyll then come on the forums and claim theyre so good. A wise man named MTashed once said, "YOU GOT A F UCKING PRIMARY! USE IT!!"

Inspect my Warlock. That will destroy you 9 out of 10 times. The other 1 will be the flick of my wrist!

I shotgun rush, yes. But if I can't gun him down with primarys, I'll switch to a shotgun. [spoiler]I don't regret being a shotgun warrior, I'll use primaries more when their bullets register.[/spoiler]

But all the people who were actually truly skilled with snipers are still using them just as AWSOMELY

The fantasy world where a body shot from a shot gun takes more skill than lining up sniper head shots! Lmao! Shotgunners only dislike snipers because you can't just run around like an idiot trying to "close the gap, land a body shot!". These posts will never end, and will always be genuinely hilarious. For that, we thank you.