EDIT: damn this exploded. I've gotten many request to make this its own topic. I'm currently refining this. Any and all suggestions are welcome. When it's ready I'll make the This is a long post, but here's my idea for these large battles Launch a 12 man activity where you land on a location in 6 separate teams of 2. These would be the patrol zones. For example, if it was earth, each team would be in a different area, skywatch, divide, etc. A certain enemy race will be launching an invasion. Sparrows are not useable. You all must fight through what seems like endless enemies to take back the planet. Each team must complete an objective in their area to move on. The objective could be just killing a boss, or dismantle explosives or repair a breach. When the team finishes their objective, if there are still other teams that need help, they can move onto those areas to help out, Until all the areas are completed. Revives work like the old nightfall, you cannot respawn, but you can revive immediately. Should both in a single team die, they must wait for another team to finish up and reach them to revive them. Should all 12 die, results in a wipe and you must restart the encounter. Upon reclaiming all the areas, the team of 12 will gain access to the path leading to the next encounter. The next part would be nice, but wouldn't be reasonable in destiny 1, so I'll still put it, but it would make more sense to implement it for destiny 2. Ideally the next encounter would be a ship battle where the team would get into their ships and have to work together to create a breach in the ships side. Ships would get a number of attacks depending on its rarity. a basic mini gun that would shoot bullets. Deals low, but rapid damage, inaccurate. Made to take out enemy fighters (on all ships) A non seeking missile. Shoots in a straight path and deals moderate damage to a single target. Best used to create the breach in the ship. Has a 6 second cool down between shots. (Uncommon/green+) A heat seeking missile. Hold on a target for 5 seconds to lock on. Deals heavy damage. It will take out an enemy fighter in one shot. It can be used to help create the breach, but it is better used elsewhere. It has a 20 second cool down between shots. (Rare/blue+) An aoe attack that will unleash a sphere of energy that obliterates any enemy fighters or debris nearby. Gives a shield to absorb damage that lasts 20 seconds. Used in case you are getting overrun. It is charged like a super. (Legendary/purple+) The final attack is laser cannon. It shoots a laser beam in a straight direction dealing devastating damage. The blast lasts for 10 seconds. Used best to help breach the ship. This charges like a double super. Upon charging the aoe attack, you start charging a second bar. If you wait until the second bar is full, you will use this attack instead of the aoe. (Exotic/gold+) Exotic ships are a drop from this activity. During the fight, as the enemy command ship gets damaged, it will activate defense turrets, these can be taken out by the mini gun or the normal missile, but they take extra damage from the heat seeking missile. Once enough damage is done to the ship, a breach in the hull is made and you can transmat in. If your ship gets destroyed in the fight, there is a 2 minute respawn timer. No reviving. If all ships a destroyed at a single time, it results in a wipe. Once you land inside, the team fights through many rooms. Respawns/revives work like strike playlist darkness zone. The rooms work like the areas in the first part. You must complete an objective to move onto the next room. The objective could be just a boss (basic strike boss style), waves of ads, something else, ex. moving enough explosives to a wall to blow a hole to the next room. The final room before final boss will have 6 bosses (basic strike boss style) and no ads. It is a very large room with a middle section and 6 separate "rooms". The bosses must be engage simultaneously. This is to prevent from a 12 man boss burn one at a time. If a boss isn't engaged at the time, it will start to initiate an attack that will smother the room in darkness (wipe). When all bosses are dead, the final encounter begins. The last encounter is a large boss. He spawns in the center area of the final room. He has 30 mill health. Ads do spawn, and if left unchecked, they could prove an issue. Each races final boss has a certain mechanic. Fallen: The boss is a actually a tag team of a pilot servitor and a large fallen armed with a scotch cannon. Each has 15 mill health. The mechanic here is that the bosses become more resistant if they have lower health than the other. The larger the difference, the more resistant the lower one is. There is a SIVA variant in hard mode. Hive: The boss is a large knight. He has 50 mill health, but takes double damage from swords. You could just use normal guns or bolt caster to kill him, but there is a mechanic to enable use of melee range swords, dark drinker/raze lighter, etc. if you have your super charged, you can sacrifice it to weaken him. When he is weakened by 3 supers, he will kneel for 30 seconds. You will deal an additional 50% damage during this time. When he reaches 10 mill health, he will become consumed by taken energy and become a taken knight. He will no longer take double damage to swords. The stun mechanic still is in place. He will also take double damage from primaries at this time. Hard mode makes him taken from the start. Vex: The boss is a large Minotaur. This mechanic is that he has an invulnerable shield. To take this down you must short circuit it's. Inside the 3 of the strike boss rooms, there are arc charges. In the other strike boss rooms, there are conduits you must put the charges in. You must put all 3 charges in there within 10 seconds of each other for full effect. The first charge will take down he shield for 30 seconds. For each charge put in after the first within 10 seconds, the shield will remain down for 1 minute. If a charge isn't put in within the time frame, it will instead deal 200k damage. When the shield goes back up, rinse and repeat. Hard mode Will add pratorians that will spawn while the shield is down. They will try to sacrifice themselves to a conflux in the center of the room. If they sacrifice, they will remove 15 seconds from the shield timer. Cabal: This boss is a large colossus. As the boss' health gets lower, he will deal more damage. As he gets to very lower health, he will be extremely deadly. In hard mode, when he reaches 50% health, he will call for his generals. There are 6 generals. They are all the equivalent of strike bosses. Basically it's like the final part before the final boss, but they can be engaged one at a time. No ads will spawn at this time

The game can barely run Zamboni without frame rate drops.

XUR VS. LORD SALADIN!!! Lol

I like this

I think they have plenty of opportunity and choices on how to go forward with full scale battles. They can make them like public events, they could make them a separate playlist you have to go into, or what I would love is to see the Stranger come recruit us and begin a conquest that takes us through time. In "changing" things by manipulating time, we'd actually be doing what was supposed to happen. Maybe the battle of Twilight Gap was won because we go back in time or something. Just kind of a cold thought.

Hopefully when the exo stranger decides to take us with her through time, maybe we can stop in the past on our way to the future and kill us some giant Ahamkara with spears for full Ahamkara gear and weapons. We will just use a single vex core mind to travel the simulated universe whithin It's core to see the simulation itself. Just in case, if the exo stranger can't do it, we will find A way to use the vex core mind to do it. Sounds fun right?