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10/24/2016 4:48:30 PM
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Shotguns aren't the issue...
Okay people, let's get real. We survived Felwinter's Lie. The shottys back in year one were noticeably stronger than the shottys in year three, but then why are they more prevalent now than back then? Well simply this... the only way to counter a shotgun, is well, another shotgun. Primaries just don't do the job quick enough and TLW is inconsistent as hell. The fact that a player can close a gap on you before you can kill him with a primary is not your fault. The frustration probably leads you to run a shotgun, and boom you have the meta. I personally don't use a shotgun because I get no satisfaction from killing someone with it because after all, we should be playing this game for the fun of it. Recently I've been growing tired of getting rushed by shotguns all the time and not having a consistent counter besides flux gernades... anybody have certain things they do to counter shotguns affectively?
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6 AntwortenIt's a map issue first, and a tactics issue second. Most of the maps are so small that short range weapons dominate.
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No the best way to counter shotguns [i]used to[/i] be fusion rifles. Bait them into charging you in a straight line and vaporize them. But we all know what Bungie thought of that. If fusion rifles were more consistent then we might actually have a really effective counter. I will say though, Saladin's Vigil with field choke is a force to be reckoned with. The problem is, fusion rifle recoil and bolt spread is so terribly random and inconsistent, the only way to guarantee a kill with the medium and fast charging models is to be so close that you are within one-hit-kill range of a shotgun. And at that point, why wouldn't you just use a shotgun? You can use a slow charging model so that you only need 4 bolts to kill, extending the effective range, but then if someone suddenly drops in, it takes ages to charge up and by that point they've casually walked up and blasted you from 15ft away.
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VOOPING FTW!!! [spoiler]PISTOL WHIP FTW TOO!!![/spoiler]
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Fusion/sidearm
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Fusion rifles forever!!!
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The only problem with Shotguns (and a bunch of other weapons) is the excessive NERF. Solution to counter shotguns? Kill them first!
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9 AntwortenFast-charging fusions (Split Shifter archetype) are the shit when we're talking shotgun counters. Your aim and recoil control has to be good since 6 of your 7 bolts must hit the mark, but it charges so quickly and melts shotgunners before they can even get close. An intermediate archetype like Ashraven's would probably be more reliable but the raid fusion is awesome when I'm feeling it.
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1 AntwortenLag. Lag is a good counter to shotguns, works every time...
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2 Antwortenthat's weird how am I killing all these people with shotguns with my legendary hand cannon and tlw? It is called being aware and jumping, if you can shoot and move backwards you are going to kill most of the shot gun rushers out there or hey just run lol
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I find that no one expects sidearms. It's great having a rusher with a Matador coming at me, only to fall dead from 6 shots to the head. The FWC sidearm is fantastic for shutting down shotties, and trespasser is pretty good.
