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10/24/2016 4:48:30 PM
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Shotguns aren't the issue...
Okay people, let's get real. We survived Felwinter's Lie. The shottys back in year one were noticeably stronger than the shottys in year three, but then why are they more prevalent now than back then? Well simply this... the only way to counter a shotgun, is well, another shotgun. Primaries just don't do the job quick enough and TLW is inconsistent as hell. The fact that a player can close a gap on you before you can kill him with a primary is not your fault. The frustration probably leads you to run a shotgun, and boom you have the meta. I personally don't use a shotgun because I get no satisfaction from killing someone with it because after all, we should be playing this game for the fun of it. Recently I've been growing tired of getting rushed by shotguns all the time and not having a consistent counter besides flux gernades... anybody have certain things they do to counter shotguns affectively?
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If you r good with hand cannons or sidearms then those are good counters to shottys in my opinion
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One shot with the palindrome and a throwing knife done back up back up back up don't rush in use your radar.
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My fusion rifle has better range and impact than most shotguns. Sure I have a charge timer but I know how to anticipate guardians on my radar. Baiting shotgun whores is easy as well as fun when they are outside of killing range. That how you exploit.
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The problem is not shotguns. The problem is the sweaty try hard scrubs that use shotguns because it's all they can do. They've copied their buttboy Youtube streamers and know nothing else. A good Trespasser melts them all.
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Fusion rilfes and side arms my dude.
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Bait them around a corner and no scope them in the head. They get a certain feeling after that
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Honestly, I just back-pedal while firing consistently. It's not a sure thing, but if I get killed, using most other things would have gotten me a dirt nap too. Generally when I get shotgunned, it's me getting outpositioned or out maneuvered, not them getting the better of me in a fight. I put myself in a bad spot, and they capitalized; that's what these guns are for. I have stated carrying the Trespasser for these encounters, and it comes in extremely hand. You can generally get them bursted down before they can trigger a shot on you. Maybe this isn't the answer for everyone, but I have an average lifespan of over 65 seconds per game as a non-sniping hand cannon user, so there must be something to it in principal, anyways.
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Bungie wanted us to use all kinds of different guns in pve.... So they deleted gjallarhorn and fatebringer and raid weapons from before..... Yet everybody plays with the same guns in pvp
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I kept getting killed by matadors because I never found a good shotgun for ever. Now I have a decent shotgun so I trade shotgun kills with people so often it's not pretty funny. Shotgun meta is lame, inferno mode is very fun because you don't get special for half the match which leads to awesome primary wars.
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Fusion rifles are a good counter. But really i dont have a problem with shotties.
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1 AntwortenBearbeitet von iTW7: 10/24/2016 8:55:21 PMMajority of top primaries have 0.8-0.9 time kill, are you really struggling to kill that guardian running straight at you? Edit: look at that OP Clever Dragon your rolling...
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Tap once in the head with a scout or hand cannon and chuck a throwing knive. Stops them in their tracks.
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They need to implement an MLG playlist with no heavy or super where one special box spawns randomly every 3 minutes for the person who grabs it and everyone spawns with Red Death.
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Quickdraw on a Fusion rifle is your best friend
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You are starting to see more shotguns because they Nerf snipers.
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sidearms can destroy, a high impact fusion will destroy them, and use a scout until they start getting close
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Lul Look at all those noobs... Makes me want to die. Seriously, this meta is horrible. #buffprimaries2016
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Bearbeitet von Acadech: 10/24/2016 10:14:42 PMU are so wrong in here... anything can counter a shotgun, check radar, move backwards and shoot with ur primary, sidearms, fusion rifles, sticky grenades etc. Snipers were more of a problem because there was no real counter except other snipers, even mida didnt flinch enough back then with HCR if u went against experienced player And to mention supremency favors cqb and that boosted shotgun meta
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If you read your radar you can tell when someone is rushing you. But i find shotguns are inconsistent, they snipe you and at point blank they dont kill sometimes which could be lag issues. I have had that happen to me and to me. Then the issue is when your hitting someone rushing at you with headshots and they dont take damage sometimes. So i would think some complaints are about the lag latency issues with people who shotgun more then anything.
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4 AntwortenThe issue is people's lack of skill in using other weapons. If shotguns did get nerfed, Hand cannons, fusions, high rof ARs and sidearm would be the new meta.
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4 AntwortenYou ever wonder if an argument between 2 Vegans is still called a beef? [spoiler]sorry, just passing through, I always use bad jokes as a way to break the ice with people.[/spoiler] ~trickshot1002 ︻デ┳═ー
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Small maps are the reason for all our troubles! Most needs were due to small maps.
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Back peddle/Backwards jump Charge Fusion Profit
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Try trespasser or another good side arm/fusion to counter them. Works pretty well.
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4 AntwortenBlnk shotgun, juggernaut shotgun = issue Primaries cant counter that. Snipers cant counter that, even a shotgun cant counter that, maybe trade but not an effective counter.
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2 AntwortenRunning backward with a sidearm works fairly well. Doesn't work every time but it does better than primaries.
