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10/24/2016 4:48:30 PM
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Shotguns aren't the issue...
Okay people, let's get real. We survived Felwinter's Lie. The shottys back in year one were noticeably stronger than the shottys in year three, but then why are they more prevalent now than back then? Well simply this... the only way to counter a shotgun, is well, another shotgun. Primaries just don't do the job quick enough and TLW is inconsistent as hell. The fact that a player can close a gap on you before you can kill him with a primary is not your fault. The frustration probably leads you to run a shotgun, and boom you have the meta. I personally don't use a shotgun because I get no satisfaction from killing someone with it because after all, we should be playing this game for the fun of it. Recently I've been growing tired of getting rushed by shotguns all the time and not having a consistent counter besides flux gernades... anybody have certain things they do to counter shotguns affectively?
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My counter is Lord of Wolves. Use it more like a fusion rifle, but don't try to get those cross map kills with it. 80% of the time, it works every time. The 20% being BS or a skilled player or both.
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1 AntwortenTLW seems to shut down shot gun rushers just fine
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2 Antworten[quote]a player can close a gap on you before you can kill him with a primary[/quote] Exactly. Movement is the problem. I think there should be a delay to readying your weapon after sliding, just like they did with Blink.
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17 AntwortenOMG ITS NOT YEAR THREE!!!
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Maps are. If they were larger and more open shotgun use would drop.
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8 AntwortenKilling people with shotguns is fun. Nerf herding babies got all the primaries nerfed and most maps require CQC. I get lots of satisfaction killing punks that think using shotguns takes no skill.
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4 AntwortenBearbeitet von RingersCheckmate: 10/25/2016 7:50:40 PMI don't get any satisfaction from legendary shotgun kills either. That's why I run the chaperone. I agree on the part of underwhelming primaries. I think every primary class from here could use a blanket time to kill decrease. And, for the love of god, make some maps that don't support shotgun gameplay.
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6 AntwortenI use nothing manacles and a fast charging fusion rifle. Fusions such as Long Far Gone that do 40 damage per bolt are my favorite. I think Long far Gone and The Branded Lord are the only two like that at the moment, but correct me if I'm wrong. With a little practice though, Plan C is definitely the most effective shotgun stopper if you have one.
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While yes primaries are weak, bringing back mapador was a problem. It gets the best stat roles, and had the best impact in the game. Making only that shotgun the most consistent and used. Using other ones just handy cap you.
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9 AntwortenHunters are the problem.
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6 AntwortenMeanwhile everyone is sleeping on fast rate of fire handcannons. Stopped lots and lots of rushers with my water star and exile student. 2 headshots 1 body shot and they are sleeping.
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3 AntwortenSaladins vigil with twilight garrison is my shotgun killer. Skate back, fire, see them try to melee then die lol.
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"Map design"
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What I typically do is us-*gets shotgunned*
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Vex mythoclast
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Bearbeitet von paloalto00: 10/26/2016 3:20:28 AMProblem is latency. /thread
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They're still pretty op. Yr1 might of been worse, but that's no excuse for them to still be overwhelming.
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I just grasp of malok the -blam!- out of their faces, that or counter shotty and bet on timing/spacing
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1 Antwortencan we please not have call of duty times to kill again? as much as i enjoyed dying in 5 frames, its something i would like to avoid at the moment
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1 Antworten[quote]Okay people, let's get real. We survived Felwinter's Lie. The shottys back in year one were noticeably stronger than the shottys in year three, but then why are they more prevalent now than back then? Well simply this... the only way to counter a shotgun, is well, another shotgun. Primaries just don't do the job quick enough and TLW is inconsistent as hell. The fact that a player can close a gap on you before you can kill him with a primary is not your fault. The frustration probably leads you to run a shotgun, and boom you have the meta. I personally don't use a shotgun because I get no satisfaction from killing someone with it because after all, we should be playing this game for the fun of it. Recently I've been growing tired of getting rushed by shotguns all the time and not having a consistent counter besides flux gernades... anybody have certain things they do to counter shotguns affectively?[/quote] Hand cannons with lots of range and fusions voop voop!!
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1 AntwortenRun voidwalker, nothing manacles... Gg shotgun rusher... That or clever dragon.
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11 AntwortenThe issue is mainly due to the consensus that primary's are weak, which is not the case, the people complaining either don't know spacing and their weapons optimal kill range, or they don't know how to properly coordinate with their teammates. Which they will never learn if they don't try to improve and instead just complain... Just my take on it. (Yes, yes, let the hate flow through you, channel the butthurt, don't focus on getting better let your sodium lvls rise)
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Backing up while charging a fusion rifle blast works ok
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2 AntwortenOne thing I always say is that most shotgunners stay out of sniper lanes. Maybe u snipers should stay out of a shotgunners territory. Not fair? Goes both ways.
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14 AntwortenQ: How to combat a shotgun? A: get good
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Tlw start aiming at their waist and hold down the trigger
