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Bearbeitet von Just Dave Man:
10/2/2016 12:22:00 PM
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Shotguns in PvP are putting Crucible in it's worst state since Thorngate
Every game its just blink, roll, slide shoulder charge shotgunners 1 shotting across the room. This is the reason I left Destiny 1 year ago because I had enough finally. Shotguns have been a problem since launch. Bungie "nerfed" them once but then gave everybody Conspiracy Theory D with crazy range AND rangefinder on it. Now the Matador is the only weapon in Crucible until Gally comes out on Heavy, there are very few players using primaries.
The really flawed game design with shotguns is that there are so many ways to close the distance effectively, they do not need the kind of insane range that they have if you have things like blink, shoulder charge, slide etc. Range should be toned down a fair amount from 6m to about 4-4.5m. If they do have range then they should have at least a 25% slower fire rate so they cannot be mashed from mid range in 2 shots. The kill times are stupid at the moment when compared with other "options".
I would also argue that the cone of fire from a shotgun is thick enough that it shouldnt need the largest of cross hairs to aim it. That big white ring of death for a cross hair really shows that shotguns take 0 skill or strategy. In the current state, pvp is at its worst ever due to the shotgun situation and its driving more of my friends away from pvp and the game in general.
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I think the game is the most balanced it has been since it began. The reason why shotguns seem so dominant is because of the layout of the maps and certain subclasses. At least imo. Most of these maps are more ideal towards shotguns because of the limited sniping lanes and vertical changes. I believe it just comes to playing smart and taking in information well enough to know where the enemy is and how they are going to approach you. I'm a sniper kind of guy but I love close battle fights. I hate the idea of hard scoping a lane for ever which everyone does in ToO. Learning how to quick scope and jump snipes are how you play these shotgun favored maps and if you hard scope a lane for awhile then I guarantee you won't do as well as you'd like. Rotating and gaining new advantage points are a must for snipers. When you get to the top 1% then you'll realize right away how different it is. If you limit yourself to only hard scope lanes with a sniper then you will get shitted on against shotties. Learn how to adjust and play in close quarters with a sniper. But the most important skill overall is your primary gun skills. Hard to kill someone when you're getting team shotted. I guess just play smarter is where I'm getting at. Lots of different ways to bait shotgunners/snipers.
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they should bring back y1 Thorn
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1 AntwortenShotguns are actually decent. People just get mad or annoyed when they get 1 shoted by something wether it be a fusion, shotty, ect. Shotguns are meant to do that, at least shotguns don't have cod shotgun range.
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6 AntwortenIf you left destiny 1 year ago shotguns weren't the problem You're just making excuses as to why you suck Quit it and start gettin better
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Well guess what, before snipers got nerfed they were crucible cancer, so I'd rather have this then that.
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Says the Hunter running NLB and Devil's Dawn. LOL
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3 AntwortenPeople defending shotguns why does it not suprise me come on bungie nerf them into the ground just like you have done with most weapons it's only fair right.
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Says the guy running double snipers
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1 AntwortenUse a shotgun. Just for one match. Maybe then you'll understand how delusion-driven this post is.
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They are very annoying especially in 6v6 game modes.
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problem is everything else got nerfed, so they standout again. with a few buffs (for once) things could be fine
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1 AntwortenThe way things are now is better than when snipers were king. I can actually feel the matches going faster now.
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Bearbeitet von oPROFESSIONALo: 10/3/2016 10:55:13 AMHere we go again Marty!!! Blast from the past thread!!! Do us a favor, turn you gear in and leave scrub.
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Isn't 6 meters over 18 feet? You do realize they are only a ohk under 5 feet at 5 it's 50/50 ane heck it can be 50/50 point blank range when you shove a shotgun down someone's throat and only take away half a shield. I've had more primary gun fights then ever and those campy 2-3 k/d kids in trials that like to camp with a sniper are now a breeze. I rather enjoy the balance of the game right now i feel its in a good place
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Better than getting double body shot by some camper in the corner of the map who constantly hard scopes.
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Too much range? Lmao [spoiler]you're lost[/spoiler] [spoiler]CT-D is terrible[/spoiler] They just need to buff primaries again tbh
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Git gud scrub
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I think it's because primary's aren't as strong as they should be, closing space is really easy in this game which makes using a shotgun far less risky than it should be
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Getting shotgunned to oblivion is preferable to being sniped out of nowhere turning a corner imo
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Learn to counter trashy. I can [spoiler]hint: it's called baiting [/spoiler]
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Stand in front of me at 6m. I'll blast you with a shotty and if you don't die from the hole I punch in your stomach, you can have your nerf Deal?
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I briefly read this so I'll say that up front. To me it's better than sniping because it's a faster pace. It's also easier to counter for me. The range can be crazy but have you ever shot a side arm or fusion rifle? Out of specials it's probably the shortest range. This is what happens when we nerf classes and abilities. More gunplay and a faster pace right? So use it to your advantage and pick an anti load out and perks. Use their shotties against them muhahaha
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I honestly can not believe these titty babies still cry about shotguns when they aren't even good compared to before.
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I wouldn't be too surprised if the highest range/impact shotguns got hit with some kind of nerf. I mean they hit one sniper archetype just for being popular already.
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1 AntwortenThey DO NOT NEED A NERF. SUPREMACY IS A MODE PRETTY MICH MADE FOR shotguns. Matador and Party crasher have been in the game way before RoI. People are just crying about them now because everyone is rewarded one.
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#crucibleslapfight
